SignPuddle database design options

maria galea signwriting.maria at GMAIL.COM
Thu Jul 4 10:18:40 UTC 2013

Hi everyone,
thanks for the interesting discussions :)

It just crossed my mind just now...Steve, could all entries be sorted into
different folders. I'm thinking of the issue of 'student/test' entries..
Imagine you have a group working on dictionary entries..could they somehow
input all their entries into a single folder..Then when student/test enters
an entry they could save all their work into a specific folder.
Sorry if this sounds's just that when I search for entries in
 all entries are listed and mixed together..and i was thinking wouldn't it
be more user-friendly if you could search by folders of people who input
entries..something like how we keep files and folders in windows..
just a thought.

On 3 July 2013 17:00, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at> wrote:

> I like that. It lets people know what this classifier is for and can
> cross-reference to other terms in a lexicon. If I show the sign "accident"
> in ASL I am using a classifier, but I can also show the sign "park the car"
> with the same classifier and use the same handshape as the number "3" not
> as the "classifier-3". Defining terms is always a part of the linguistic
> historian's presentations.
> Charles Butler
> chazzer3332000 at
> 240-764-5748
> Clear writing moves business forward.
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Cherie Wren <cwterp at YAHOO.COM>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:47 AM
> *Subject:* Re: SignPuddle database design options
> Classifiers have multiple functions.  Some describe somethings movement--
> acting as a verb;  Some describe an objects size or shape-- acting as an
> adjective;  some describe location-- acting as a preposition; some describe
> the manner of movement-- acting as an adverb; they can show path of
> movement/direction/speed, they can show orientation in space, they can show
> number or quantity,.....  and I'm sure there are many i am missing.  They
> are not unique to signed languages, but they are much more used and
> integral in signed languages.  I think they need a category, and perhaps a
> space to add more information, such as 'locative' or 'size and shape
> specifier'
> cherie
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2013 9:49 AM
> *Subject:* Re: SignPuddle database design options
> To be honest, I have always seen what everyone is calling a classifier
> here function as a verb rather than a noun or anything else. It is true
> that classifiers can only work with certain nouns, but it doesn't function
> as a noun itself.
> I agree with the issue of simplicity & usability versus flexibility &
> exactness. There needs to be a balance between the two sides. That's why I
> was thinking of having the major categories be static and then having the
> subcategories be something that people can enter to be able to identify
> more specifically what the entries are. The other issue is that even the
> major categories might not fit all sign languages because we don't really
> know yet. Going static could possibility hurt more than benefit.
> Adam
> On Jul 3, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Stephen E Slevinski Jr wrote:
> I was wondering about that.
> * Should classifier be added to the list?
> * Is a classifier only part of a sign?
> * Can classifier fall under another part of speech, such as noun or
> pronoun?
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> On 7/2/13 9:41 AM, Adam Frost wrote:
> I think that would be a very good idea for all of the categories to be
> able to select a subcategory to say specifically what type of verb, noun,
> etc.
> Hi Adam,
> I'm torn by simplicity & usability versus flexible & exact.
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