# AW: QUESTION: Dynamics and Timing Symbols

Stefan Wöhrmann stefanwoehrmann at GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE
Sat Mar 2 22:24:27 UTC 2013

```Looking at the two fingers  ouch  wouldn´t it hurt? Just my feeling but I
am no drummer ... ;-))

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[mailto:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
Gesendet: Samstag, 2. März 2013 22:01
An: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Betreff: Re: QUESTION: Dynamics and Timing Symbols

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March 2, 2013

Please excuse my delay in answering this question. Thank you, Charles, for
Second, I saw that Madson and
too...smile
so you are getting plenty of feedback... Thanks to everyone -

Regarding the Strike symbol in your writing
The drum beat that you are
trying to write below does not actually contact a surface but is mimicking
the feeling of contacting a surface with the drumming movement - So that
would not be written with a Strike Symbol, because the Strike must show
contact with force, and there is no real contact happening
So the Tension
Symbol at the end of the movement, or even the Fast Symbols would be
substituted, rather than using the Strike symbols (if you feel they are
necessary - they may not be - maybe too much detail?)...

Regarding the Alternating Symbol - no I would not use that either. When we
read a group of arrows with the left and right hands, we always read the
arrows from the Center - Out. So the left and right arrow that are closest
to the center are read first, and then read out one by one - so there is no
need to also write an Alternating Symbol
since the Alternating feeling is

So I would write it this way, if we want to write lots of detail (smile):

http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=12
<http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=12&sgn=46&sid=3264>
&sgn=46&sid=3264

Val ;-)

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On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote:

SignWriting List

February 27, 2013

Hi Charles -

Thank you for this question. I will post your question to the SignWriting
List so others can learn too

There are three Timing Symbols
as you can see here:

http://www.signbank.org/iswa/2f7_sg.html

I will explain in detail next message -

Val ;-)

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On Feb 27, 2013, at 2:40 AM, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM>
wrote:

Thank you, thank you..
<http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M42x47S12d5115xn4
=10&name=Umbanda>

Meanwhile

Take a look at this sign. Do I need the alternating arcs. I've never been
sure with this as one hand goes up as the other comes down. As there is no
surface (it's a drum beat) is this the right movement. Should it be ~

Charles Butler
chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
240-764-5748

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