AW: AW: How can we write ...?

Fri Nov 8 23:42:23 UTC 2013

Hi Charles, 

yes – I agree – smile. 

Stefan

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Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Charles Butler
Gesendet: Freitag, 8. November 2013 23:24
An: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Betreff: Re: AW: How can we write ...?

How's this - I corrected it in the Slovenian database.

<http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M58x49S37606n57xn
44S16c40n46xn28S20800n48xn48S18116n6xn1S1811e29x1S22b0436x19S22b140x18&pad=1
0&name=distrofija> 

Charles Butler
chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
240-764-5748
Clear writing moves business forward.

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From: Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM>
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU 
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: AW: How can we write ...?

Stefan and Edi,

Hold it, Im showing the hands facing upwards, that's what a back of hand
STRIPE on the hands shows. It's facing UPWARDS. Not BACK, and the fingers
are pointing UP. I went through the options and the split hand is what SIDE
VIEW is. I see the fingers aren't attached, so it is causing confusion. Let
me try again. 

I'm on a computer that doesn't have the right software, I'll try to fix it.
I was doing a quick fix and it didn't work. Sorry about that. I can see the
variant, but this Mac doesn't have Firefox. 

I will fix it and repost. 

Charles Butler
chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
240-764-5748
Clear writing moves business forward.

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From: Stefan Woehrmann <stefanwoehrmann at GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE>
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU 
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: AW: How can we write ...?

Hi Charles, 

I look at the first sign ..

Well I do not know what should be done .. I did not read any description or
could not find any video... ;-(

Nevertheless  .... it is almost impossible to perform this ... back of hands
toward the body moving down ????  ouch! 

What do you think? 

Stefan

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Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Charles Butler
Gesendet: Freitag, 8. November 2013 03:52
An: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Betreff: Re: How can we write ...?

Sign first - dystrophy. From your description, to show the fingers in the
position you want, I find the edge-on position the easiest to understand.
This has the palm from the side so the lower half is black with the upper
white. In addition, the description doesn't have the hands touch so they
need to have separate paths. 

<http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M58x51S37606n58xn
46S16c40n47xn30S20800n49xn50S18146n7xn1S1814e29x0S22b0437x21S22b143x18&pad=1
0&name=dystrophy> 

Sign second - your question was how to show movement forward while keeping
the hand in place, sort of like a hinge. 

<http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M43x60S2ff00n18xn
17S1ec0en9x37S2f900n6x24S2c30017x18&pad=10&name=star> one, the right hand
was backward. the thumb is the shorter hook. To show that the hand remains
in contact, use the pressure ~ mark. This holds the hand in place while it
rotates forward. 

Here is an example from Brazilian sign language, the sign for jello
(gelatino) where the hand trembles. 

<http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M23x76S2050013x40
S15612n12x41S2f700n8x13S2f90011x53S36100n18xn36S30350n18x25S30354n8x25S30350
4x26S15a16n18x64&pad=10&name=gelatina> Note that both hands are showed edge
on so that it doesn't get confusing for the reader. The top hand touches the
bottom hand, and presses on the bottom hand. There is movement but it is of
the fingers (the little arrows) the combination of * and ~ ensures that the
hands remain in contact and pressing.

Charles Butler
chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
240-764-5748
Clear writing moves business forward.

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From: Edi Strouhal <e.strouhal at GMAIL.COM>
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:34 AM
Subject: How can we write ...?

Hello!

First: in attach I send You questions concerned for writing a sign in SZJ
(Slovenian sign language). 

Second: Is it possible to make a fonts for Slovenian sign alphabet?
Our alphabet is some different from ASL. Our deaf don´t understand ASL
alphabet at all. In attach I send you SLOVENIAN ALPHABET. This my question
is only for information.

Thank you for your advice and help. Greetings from sunshine Ljubljana. Edi.

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