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Hi Maureen, .. 

I am so happy to receive your DVD in this blue envelope. 

No problem to look at all the videos ... 

It is such a pleasure to watch the DVD about your BSL workshop ... thanks to
your positive aura, it is no problem to follow the lessons over a longer
period

I looked very carefully at your demonstration of BSL fingerspelling and in
order to support my students within their English – lessons we will give it
a try and practice BSL fingerspelling parallel to the DGS fingerspelling ...

I will inform you how this experiment will work. 

One very interesting aspect may be that my students will receive a lot of
support by the mouthing .... so there is a good chance that they will
improve their articulation of english words as well. 

If you are interested to copy these entries from the German Sign-Puddle
dictionary to the British Sign-Puddle dictionary .. that should be no
problem at all. 

Valerie is much better in offering this kind of small tutorial – but let mie
try to explain. 

Step one: open your  British SignPuddle Dictionary

Step two: Scroll down and look for the German Sign-Puddle (double-click) 

Step three: Click on “Search by words” left top icon 

Step four: write “BSL” into the searchfield “Terms and Titles”   (radio
button “any part of word”)

Step five: click on search 

Now you will see a list of all “BSL fingerspelling entries” I have written
so far ;-) 

Step six: Just select one of them (click)  and the sign will show up

Step seven: click on  “Copy Sign” 

Step eight: at the bottom you find all the flags for the different
countries. Look for the British SignPuddle Dictionary  ( not Literature!!)
and click on the flag.

Step nine: Just enter the word or the number, write any comment in the area
below for example “BSL fingerspelling as taught by Maureen Doyle,
practicemakesperfect.org.uk transcribed by SW”

That`s it

Now this entry is available in the British SignPuddle – Dictionary and in
the delegs-Editor as well (24h later – smile) 

If there are any questions- do not hesitate to ask... 

Thank you so much again

Stefan 

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Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Maureen Doyle
Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. September 2013 14:06
An: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Betreff: Re: AW: Maureen. "Widget ./ facebook.

Hi Again. Stefan.

I dont think anyone is in CHarge of the DIctionary  .As anyone who knows  SW

can add to it..  
SUzanne Pach.. (Dutch )  who was our Workshop tutor  also added some.
when she prepared the workshop handouts.. 

 I added alot of the SW  for the BSL  after we had the   Workshop .

 So I just put SP  for Southport..   the area I live in.. 
As it saved time 

  WHat I did was ,  looked at   the USA  dictionary .. as I knew  that
Diaper and Nappy were the 
same Sign   so I copied it to the British DIctionary...  but added the
British name.

I then scrolled through all their signs and when I found  those that I knew
as a BSL sign
I then  Copied and renamed.. 
 I hope you inderstand what I mean. 

It took  many  many hours even to do  those.. 

 there are  SW Nursery rhymes  in the Literature   to link with   my DVD
so having the SW  print outs  went  beautifully with the DVD  for those 
on the workshop.. 

I havent  got back to  doing any more  but maybe I will  in time.. 

Regards. 

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 23:56:27 +0200
From: stefanwoehrmann at GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE
Subject: AW: Maureen. "Widget ./ facebook.
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU

Hello  Maureen ,,,  and other BSL - SW-list members , ...

Thank you very much for your answer. It helps a lot to understand. 

Well ...mh ... how can anybody think that this kind of drawings ... mh... 

Documents written in SignWriting are tremendously better in any way. 

The reason that I am interested in these materials is the following. At
school we discuss to offer BSL – going along with learning English ...
instead of a mixture of DGS and English translation. 

I do not know whether we really need that ..but it would be helpful to offer
at least a few documents written in BSL ... 

I would love to start with the numbers from 1 to 20 and some nouns  (boy,
girl, teacher, cat, dog,...)    some Adjectives... (colours, deaf, hearing,
small, ...) 

Looking at the BSL Online dictionary which can be used with our great
delegs-Editor there are not too many entries right now... So we need more. 

Looking at online BSL - Videos  I  can see a lot of information coming from
the mouth – same happened when I looked at the deaf students visiting our
school this week. ... so our symbol set for “Mundbilder” would be helpful to
write the signs as the signers perform them. 

I would like to discuss that. Here is my question. 

I do not know who on the sw-list is in charge of the BSL  dictionary. 

Who is SP  ..the person that made most of the entries? 

All best Stefan 

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Von: Maureen Doyle [mailto:maureengndoyle at hotmail.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. September 2013 19:10
An: stefanwoehrmann at GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE
Betreff: RE: Maureen. "Widget ./ facebook.

Hi again..  

 Yes,  Ive Heard  of and Have the  2 cds  that are needed to install on the
computer  to be
 able to design and print out   Sign language  pictures  with words.. 

this link will show you what widget is.. and there are some free  documents
that may be of use to you..

 <http://www.widgit.com/resources/bsl/sheets/>
<http://www.widgit.com/resources/bsl/sheets/>
http://www.widgit.com/resources/bsl/sheets/ 

 Its really for making flash cards.. posters etc  for people of all ages
learning sign language 
 and  for  teaching aids .  The Dictionaries  that you can buy   are  made
with these .
They  are very good  and I use alot of them as teaching  aids..  and
recommend our members 
to buy Cath Smiths.. products..

  The Widget could not be used for a Deaf person to write a letter or  story
in their own
sign language.      so  its completely  different to   SignWriting.. 

I Held a signwriting  workshop here in Southport. Merseyside and Have added
BSL SW signs 
to the British SW section. 

I cant understand why SW was never introduced into British Deaf schools
many years ago..
I know Deaf person  at the Deaf  centre in Southport that  could not read
nor write   he  went to 
  The Birkdale Deaf school  but it was ORAL  and didnt allow  signing.

I'm hard of  hearing.. and been doing  sign language  for 17 years.. and
also running my voluntary group
 to teach others  ,  Deaf people with no signing   and hearing people
needing or wanting to learn 
for many different reasons. .. 

 Ive sent  you an invitation by email  to join our  face book. group . 

my best regards.. 

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From: stefanwoehrmann at gebaerdenschrift.de
To: maureengndoyle at hotmail.com
Subject: AW: BSL ABC in SW .
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:42:13 +0200

Hi Maureen, 

thnak you for your message. 

Well this graphic is just an example This week we have had a Comenius week
at our school. Teams from Vienna (Austria),  Derby (England) and  Lubliniec
(Poland) visited our school. They came to my classroom and I have had a
short opportunity to demonstrate how we work so tremendously effectful with
the delegs-Editor. 

The people from England looked at it and made a comment that there is
already a pretty similar concept for BSL  ... “Widget”...kind of that ... I
forgot the exact term. 

Nevertheless it seems to me that this system is more kind of drawing people
with arrows describing what kind of movement ... and it is not online. There
must be some kind of Software-programm on a CD...  In a few weeks my
colleague will get the chance to visit them and to bring this software..

Hi Maureen do you know anything about that? 

I explained that with the Delegs-BSL – dictionary they would be able to
start immediately to write excercise sheets and SW-documents for their deaf
students ... May  be it has been a little bit too enthusiastic ..;-)  and
overwhelming when we wrote a few simple phrases in BSL . Anyway Tima did an
outstanding job to demonstrate that he was able to write English, BSL and
German... 

Would be a pleasure to send the BSL ABC  ... but where? Do you offer a link
.. so that I have not to search for hours?

Stefan 

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Von: Maureen Doyle [mailto:maureengndoyle at hotmail.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. September 2013 13:50
An: stefanwoehrmann at GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE
Betreff: RE: BSL ABC in SW .

Hi  

 Please post  The Sw  BSl alphabet to my  groups  face book page .

practice makes perfect. 
 maureen doyle.
 www.practicemakesperfect.org.uk  

kind regards..

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> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 06:52:24 -0400
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