WRAB Conference (Paris) presentation on SW
Charles Butler
chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Thu Feb 20 14:15:42 UTC 2014
Fascinating. This is what I have sometimes objected to in teaching SW. When I teach, some writing is "wrong". It is not "subjective". If you write the wrong hand for a movement, it's not a "variant". If you show a movement up when it is out, it is not a variant. When you follow the Parkhurst rule it is a rule that you must use consistently for it to be "right" within that system.
We hunt for a middle ground, but there are now more than 33 consistent rules for writing which make it a valid and checkable system that could be programmed to "kick out a sign" as a misspelling if the program detected a mismatch between the "writing" and the "rules."
Charles Butler
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Clear writing moves business forward.
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From: Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod <anne-claude at FAMILLEGIROD.COM>
To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
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Subject: Re: WRAB Conference (Paris) presentation on SW
Bonjour Claudia
si un texte de cette présentation existe, je serais très intéressée à en prendre connaissance
Meilleures salutations
A-Claude Prélaz Girod
Le 20 févr. 2014 à 14:43, Claudia S. Bianchini a écrit :
Hello all :-)
>yesterday I present a part of my work on SW at WRAB (Writing research across borders) in Paris.http://conference2014.fr/wrab_accueil_en.php
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>:-) Claudia
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>Here is the abstract (French with english below)
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>Session X2-X3 : Bianchini Claudia Savina : Université de Poitiers / EA3816-FoReLL - France
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>Représenter les Langues des Signes (LS) à travers SignWriting (SW) : peut-on parler de « fautes » ?
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>La Langue des Signes (LS) est exclusivement face-à-face et elle ne peut pas être représentée par les écritures nées pour les langues vocales. Nous étudions SignWriting, un système de notation des LS qui est composé de «glyphes» (unités graphiques) qui s'agencent au sein d'une «vignette» (espace graphique). Ce système, qui est relativement simple à utiliser, présente toutefois des difficultés, notamment dans la composition des vignettes. À partir des productions et des réflexions de sourds signeurs, nous analyserons les vignettes posant des problèmes de lecture et nous verrons que ces obstacles peuvent être imputés à des facteurs humains, à des spécificités de SW mais aussi à des «fautes volontaires» du scripteur. Nous conclurons sur l'opportunité ou non de parler de «fautes d'orthographe» en SW, puisqu'il n'existe pas encore une véritable «norme». Nous verrons enfin qu'un critère subjectif remplace l'objectivité de
la «norme»: c'est la lisibilité.
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>Sign Languages (SL) are only face-to-face and cannot be represented by any writing system developed for spoken languages. We examine SignWriting, a notation system for LS composed of "glyphs" (graphics units) that fit together in a "thumbnail" (graphic space). However, this system, which is relatively simple to use, presents difficulties, especially in the "typesetting" of thumbnails. From the written productions and related thoughts of deaf signers, we analyze the thumbnails which cause reading problems, showing that these hindrances can be ascribed to human factors, to SW intrinsic characteristic, or even to "voluntary faults" of the writer. Finally, we consider whether or not to speak of "misspellings" in SW, since a true "standard" does not exist yet: in fact, in SW a subjective criterion, "readability", replaces the objectivity of the "norm".
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>Claudia S. Bianchini, PhD
>MCF Licence SDL-LSF, Univ. Poitiers
>claudia.savina.bianchini at univ-poitiers.fr
>Université de Poitiers - UFR Lettres et Langues (Bât. A3)
>1 rue Raymond CANTEL - TSA 11102
>86073 POITIERS CEDEX 9
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