Sign=?iso-8859-1?Q?=C9criture_?=in French-Switzerland
Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod
anne-claude at FAMILLEGIROD.COM
Sat Feb 22 10:32:25 UTC 2014
dear Val
let me first wish you a happy birthday!!
thanks for your comment about the site and the work done!
I've to refresh our site.... but have to find time to do this.... let you know when it's done
here are some example of the pages of "MiniDIco published every 2 month in the swiss journal of the deaf (franch speaking part)
the items are words in swiss french Sign Language (we call it LSF even so it's not exactly the same signs as in France).... the drawings are made by Martine Leuzinger who is a deaf sign language teacher, and I'm in charge of writing transcription in SW
Le 22 févr. 2014 à 05:28, Valerie Sutton a écrit :
> SignWriting List
> February 21, 2014
>
> Hello Anny -
> I am so glad to know you have kept signecriture.org alive - It is a lovely site:
>
> SignÉcriture
> http://www.signecriture.org/Bienvenue.html
>
> I would love to see the Mini Dico, but could not find the page that shows any SignWriting - is there a link?
>
> meanwhile, the old Pisourd site still has active links on the web with full SignWriting…thank you for your work on that dictionary, no matter how frustrating it was for you- it still provides information for the general public.
>
> And I love your games. Let’s talk about this later, when you have time. Would you like to post some of your games on this web page? I need to re-read our old emails about your games which are really good...
>
> Learn SignWriting with Games
> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/games/
>
> There have been some ASL people working with your games, so I can tell you about that later -
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ——
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod <anne-claude at famillegirod.com> wrote:
>
>> hi Val
>>
>> it's been a long time.... I've always been on the list but our association www.signecriture.com is not very active....
>>
>> my only contribution is to write the different signs in the MINI DICO (on page in the Swiss federation of the deaf Journal called FAIS-MOI SIGNE).... for example.... see below....
>>
>> otherwise the association is "sleeping"
>> We will participate in what is called "SALON DE LA FORMATION" (SALON DU LIVRE) in Geneva beginning of may and present a few games using SignWriting.... as the theme this year is "Enjeux langues - Langues en jeux"
>>
>> I'll try to give you some news of this event....
>>
>> PS for CLAUDIA: I'd love to meet when you come to Switzerland..... contact me privately (anne-claude at famillegirod.com)
>>
>>
>> Le 20 févr. 2014 à 17:57, Valerie Sutton a écrit :
>>
>>> SignWriting List
>>> February 20, 2014
>>>
>>> Everyone is welcome to post in French or any spoken or signed language - smile - all languages are welcome here on the List -
>>>
>>> And hello Anny! Great to hear from you here on the SignWriting List again - Val ;-)
>>>
>>> --------
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Claudia S. Bianchini <chiadu14 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Anne
>>>> I plan to write an article on this for WRAB Proceedings. Maybe in 1 month or 2... When it will be done I'll send it to the list.
>>>>
>>>> I just saw that you are near Lausanne... I'll come to Losanne in july for DH conference (http://dh2014.org/) where I'll present another part of my work on SW... maybe we can meet there to speak a little bit about SW in Switzerland... I met Penny BoyesBraem 3 years ago (at the conference to remember Elena Pizzuto). I told her I'll send her my PhD thesis but... I allways forgot to... shame on me!
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Claudia
>>>> PS: if we write each other outside the list... maybe french is better (for me, sure!)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-02-20 14:47 GMT+01:00 Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod <anne-claude at famillegirod.com>:
>>>> Bonjour Claudia
>>>>
>>>> si un texte de cette présentation existe, je serais très intéressée à en prendre connaissance
>>>> Meilleures salutations
>>>>
>>>> A-Claude Prélaz Girod
>>>> Le 20 févr. 2014 à 14:43, Claudia S. Bianchini a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all :-)
>>>>> yesterday I present a part of my work on SW at WRAB (Writing research across borders) in Paris.http://conference2014.fr/wrab_accueil_en.php
>>>>> :-) Claudia
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the abstract (French with english below)
>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>> Session X2-X3 : Bianchini Claudia Savina : Université de Poitiers / EA3816-FoReLL - France
>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>> Représenter les Langues des Signes (LS) à travers SignWriting (SW) : peut-on parler de « fautes » ?
>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>> La Langue des Signes (LS) est exclusivement face-à-face et elle ne peut pas être représentée par les écritures nées pour les langues vocales. Nous étudions SignWriting, un système de notation des LS qui est composé de «glyphes» (unités graphiques) qui s'agencent au sein d'une «vignette» (espace graphique). Ce système, qui est relativement simple à utiliser, présente toutefois des difficultés, notamment dans la composition des vignettes. À partir des productions et des réflexions de sourds signeurs, nous analyserons les vignettes posant des problèmes de lecture et nous verrons que ces obstacles peuvent être imputés à des facteurs humains, à des spécificités de SW mais aussi à des «fautes volontaires» du scripteur. Nous conclurons sur l'opportunité ou non de parler de «fautes d'orthographe» en SW, puisqu'il n'existe pas encore une véritable «norme». Nous verrons enfin qu'un critère subjectif remplace l'objectivité de la «norme»: c'est la lisibilité.
>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>> Sign Languages (SL) are only face-to-face and cannot be represented by any writing system developed for spoken languages. We examine SignWriting, a notation system for LS composed of "glyphs" (graphics units) that fit together in a "thumbnail" (graphic space). However, this system, which is relatively simple to use, presents difficulties, especially in the "typesetting" of thumbnails. From the written productions and related thoughts of deaf signers, we analyze the thumbnails which cause reading problems, showing that these hindrances can be ascribed to human factors, to SW intrinsic characteristic, or even to "voluntary faults" of the writer. Finally, we consider whether or not to speak of "misspellings" in SW, since a true "standard" does not exist yet: in fact, in SW a subjective criterion, "readability", replaces the objectivity of the "norm".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Claudia S. Bianchini, PhD
>>>>> MCF Licence SDL-LSF, Univ. Poitiers
>>>>> claudia.savina.bianchini at univ-poitiers.fr
>>>>> Université de Poitiers - UFR Lettres et Langues (Bât. A3)
>>>>> 1 rue Raymond CANTEL - TSA 11102
>>>>> 86073 POITIERS CEDEX 9
>>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION
>>>>>
>>>>> Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator sutton at signwriting.org
>>>>>
>>>>> Post Messages to the SignWriting List: sw-l at listserv.valenciacollege.edu
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>> Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod
>>>> ruelle des chambres chaudes 1
>>>> 1271 Givrins
>>>> Tel ++41 22 362 52 37
>>>> Fax ++41 22 362 52 66
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>>>> @: anne-claude at famillegirod.com
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>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION
>>>>
>>>> Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator sutton at signwriting.org
>>>>
>>>> Post Messages to the SignWriting List: sw-l at listserv.valenciacollege.edu
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>>>> --
>>>> Claudia S. Bianchini, PhD
>>>> MCF Licence SDL-LSF, Univ. Poitiers
>>>> claudia.savina.bianchini at univ-poitiers.fr
>>>> Université de Poitiers - UFR Lettres et Langues (Bât. A3)
>>>> 1 rue Raymond CANTEL - TSA 11102
>>>> 86073 POITIERS CEDEX 9
>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION
>>>>
>>>> Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator sutton at signwriting.org
>>>>
>>>> Post Messages to the SignWriting List: sw-l at listserv.valenciacollege.edu
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>>> ________________________________________________
>>>
>>> SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION
>>>
>>> Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator sutton at signwriting.org
>>>
>>> Post Messages to the SignWriting List: sw-l at listserv.valenciacollege.edu
>>>
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>> ******************************************
>> Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod
>> ruelle des chambres chaudes 1
>> 1271 Givrins
>> Tel ++41 22 362 52 37
>> Fax ++41 22 362 52 66
>> Natel ++41 79 956 98 34
>> @: anne-claude at famillegirod.com
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>> ________________________________________________
>>
>> SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION
>>
>> Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator sutton at signwriting.org
>>
>> Post Messages to the SignWriting List: sw-l at listserv.valenciacollege.edu
>>
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> ________________________________________________
>
> SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION
>
> Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator sutton at signwriting.org
>
> Post Messages to the SignWriting List: sw-l at listserv.valenciacollege.edu
>
> SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist
>
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Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod
ruelle des chambres chaudes 1
1271 Givrins
Tel ++41 22 362 52 37
Fax ++41 22 362 52 66
Natel ++41 79 956 98 34
@: anne-claude at famillegirod.com
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