How do you write down SW symbols Š

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
March 8, 2014

Hello André, and Charles Stefan, Cherie, and everyone -

Thanks for the great question, and all of the answers are so true and insightful…

There are three aspects to this:  1. Three Lanes for Role Shifting and storytelling   2. Writing punctuation that is actually signed (like speaking punctuation in a spoken language - like saying the word QUOTE)   3. Writing punctuation that is not signed (not spoken), but used in written literature, like periods, commas, footnote markers etc. Punctuation that has no meaning except in written literature.

1. Three Lanes for Role Shifting and storytelling
Playing different roles - one person is over on one side and the other person is over on the other side, and they are having a conversation. If that is what you are referring to, with the the numbers 1, 2 and 3 in your question below, then that is why my Deaf co-workers, the DAC members Lucinda O’Grady, Meriam Ina Schroeder and others in the 1980s, asked to write vertically in three lanes - Vertical writing really helps writing the grammar of such conversations properly in sign languages, because when a signer is telling a story, there are little weight shifts - we don’t even realize this, but automatically the narrator (storyteller) places one person on the right side of his body, and another person on the left side of his body, and the narrator of the story is in the center. When the person on the right in the story says something, then the storyteller shifts his weight just a tiny bit over to the right side, and might possibly turn his shoulder a little to look at the left side as if looking at the other person on the left - that sign or signs are placed in the Right Lane because the weight and the signs shifted over to the Right Side of the Body. Then the narrator comes back to the Center Lane, and if the person on the left responds, then the narrator shifts his body a little to the left and places the sign over to the left side in the Left Lane - so the 3 Lanes are needed to write storytelling - and Cherie’s Cat in the Hat is an excellent example of the writing of the 3 Lanes… So how do you place signs in the 3 Lanes? In SignText, there are two different ways to place signs in three Lanes…see diagram attached



More coming later today -

Val ;-)

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On Mar 8, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Cherie Wren <cwterp at YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Just to throw my hat in the ring with the others who have responded...  I suppose it depends on your individual signed language.  In ASL there is a sign for quote, but it isn't used to show that this person is saying something to that person.  That is all done by body shifting and "constructed action"  which in the old days would be called mime.  However if I am teaching my student about english, and I need him to understand that in written english we use comma quote my name is cherie period quote.  I would use one left hand half of the sign quote at the beginning of the quoted part, and one right handed one at the end.  I would sign comma and period.  That is how I would write it too, if my goal is to teach it to my student. If I am writing a story that included conversation, I would sign it like I sign it in ASL.  
> 
> cherie
> 
> 
> From: André Thibeault <atg at VIDEOTRON.CA>
> To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU 
> Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 7:56 PM
> Subject: How do you write down SW symbolsŠ
> 
> Hi Val and everyone,
> 
> Suppose I am writing a story. Here is an example of a dialogue:
> 
> I said: ³I like your clothes.²
> 
> ³Thank you,² responded Val.
> 
> - ³Where did you buy them?²
> 
> - ³I did not buy them: my mother makes my clothes.²
> 
> How do you write down SW symbols for Œ ³ ¹,Œ ² ¹ and Œ-Œ in this text
> above ?  
> 
> In addition, how do you write down SW symbols for Œ«¹ and Œ»¹?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> André
> 
> 
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