Examples of Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting

Jonathan Duncan duncanjonathan at YAHOO.CA
Mon Sep 8 20:57:45 UTC 2014

Hi Adam,
     I am working with Charles on finding a better way for sorting. So 
that´s a bit what Charles was explaining to you some of the issues.  I 
know he also asked last week about locations on the hands.  I know Val 
was off for a well deserved break.  But we are still wondering about 
that too  I believe it´s the same as number 1 and 2 in Syllable 4.

I asked about the Syllable 4 below because am adding SignSpelling 
Sequence suggestion function to SignWriter Studio.   There will be two 
suggestion types,  one that follows Val´s 
sw0534-SignSpellingGuidelines-2008.pdf and another for what we are 
developping with Charles.

So far I have been able to automate a great part of setting the sequence 
for a sign from the symbols in a sign (no special location) for 
SignSpellingGuidelines-2008.  I have done Sylables 1-3 with a great 
measure of success so long as there aren´t more than four hands and a 
couple movement symbols.  For composite signs like "Good morning" in 
Honduran Sign Language it´s not great at all, but otherwise I think that 
it is a time saver.

But I got to Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting and I need some examples of 
signs sorted that have these features.  I am thinking that many of these 
would also be the special location symbol that aren´t used in everyday 

Thank you for the two examples you found.  That was helpful.

On 9/8/2014 9:58 AM, Adam Frost wrote:
> I’m not sure what you mean by 1-3. Do you mean the location on the 
> hand? And what do you mean by Top-Down for the Face?
> As for the neck, I found this sign with SignSpelling Sequence.
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=9098
> For the shoulder, I found this sign with SignSpelling Sequence.
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=7005
> Adam
> On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:56 AM, Jonathan Duncan <duncanjonathan at YAHOO.CA 
> <mailto:duncanjonathan at YAHOO.CA>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>     Does anybody have any SignSequence examples for
>> Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting
>> 1. Location Dominant Hand
>> 2. Location Non-Dominant Hand
>> 4. Face (Top-Down)
>> 5. Neck
>> 6. Shoulder
>> I´ve looked through the sign spelling sequences for the ASL and only 
>> found examples for
>> 3. Head
>> 7. Torso
>> 8. Hips & Legs
>> Thanks,



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