[Sw-l] SW Keyboard

Wed Mar 25 06:39:05 UTC 2015

@Yu Zhang: I've built into my SignWriting Keyboard script a system for
adding new layouts without making substantial changes to the underlying
code. You might want to try this instead of creating a new system from
scratch. The code for the script is currently on the Wikimedia Incubator at
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Yair_rand/SWKB.js . There's a
"skeleton" layout in it called DOSLayout, which should give a good idea of
how layouts are built. Also, there's a big block of documentation at the
top of the script.

(Also @Jonathan Duncan: Are you still interested in porting SignWriter DOS
over to javascript? If so, you might also want to look at the documentation
and code there. Or I could code the DOS keyboard layout if you've got a
complete layout thought out already, if you want.)

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote:

> Hello Yu -
> No. The link you show below in your message is NOT the Sign Keyboard in
> the SignWriter DOS program.
>
> The link you have below is a “Fingerspelling Keyboard”, and that is NOT
> writing sign languages with the Sign Keyboad. A Fingerspelling Keyboard is
> used to type Fingerspelling, and that is not writing signs themselves…
>
> So although the 17 Fingerspelling Keyboards do use SignWriting symbols to
> write the Manual Alphabets from different countries, they are not the Sign
> Keyboard for typing Sign Languages, using SignWriting…
>
> The SignWriter Computer Program, which is not used much any longer because
> it is in MS DOS (you can still use it with DOSBOX installed), was a
> wonderful program because you could switch between three kinds of
> keyboards: Sign, Fingerspelling, and Latin Alphabet. So you could switch
> between typing Sign Language (Facial expressions, arm movements, hand
> movements, head movements, gesture), and Fingerspelling (the Manual
> Alphabets from the different countries that are a one-to-one correlation
> with the alphabets from the spoken languages of the countries but are not
> sign language), and typing words with the Roman (Latin) alphabet.
>
> So to learn the Sign Keyboard (not the Fingerspelling keyboard) you need
> to read this document (one I already directed you to):
>
> http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs1/sw0049-SWDOS-Type-Signs.pdf
>
> As far as really using that keyboard, the problem is that it is an old
> program and you will need to download DOSBOX and install it on your
> computer and then download SignWriter DOS and install it inside of DOSBOX:
>
> SignWriter DOS Computer Program
> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/sw44/index.html
>
>
> Then start the program and start playing around with the keyboard…
>
> So this Sign Keyboard which I designed is not inside a more modern program
> right now…I would love it if someone were willing to program the general
> design that we developed for SignWriter DOS, and somehow get it to work
> within newer more modern programs, but most software developers want to
> develop their own style of keyboard design…so if you want to do your own
> from scratch that is ok, but you have a big learning curve - you will need
> to know SignWriting (the ISWA 2010) and perhaps write some sign language
> yourself in SignPuddle Online - write a sign language document yourself
> with the drag and drop system in SignPuddle Online for awhile to see the
> symbols and how they work to get a feel as to what is needed -
>
> Have you read our ASL Wikipedia articles? A typing system needs to be able
> to create these kinds of articles:
>
> http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page
>
> or
>
> http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wp/ase/
>
> Have you tried to type with Yair Rand’s keyboard?
>
> *https://806e8abcad89c3043886d9f62a7903edbba39fa1.googledrive.com/host/0B1Pz4n6wXAfvT18yOTFoSE5Sa2s/SWKB.html <https://806e8abcad89c3043886d9f62a7903edbba39fa1.googledrive.com/host/0B1Pz4n6wXAfvT18yOTFoSE5Sa2s/SWKB.html>*
>
>
> I am sure you will find your way Yu - I am just trying to give you a
> little experience with a very big subject matter - start writing some signs
> with SignPuddle right now… http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/  … and
> through experience it will start to give you ideas -
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ----------
>
>
> On Mar 24, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Yu Zhang <yz13kh at STUDENT.OCADU.CA> wrote:
>
> Hi Val and Andre,
>
> Thank you for your reply and resources!
>
> Is this the keyboard that people are using and Val, you said you can type
> quickly while other people just type with one finger?
> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/fingkeys/fkey001.html And if
> there can be an tutorial for people to learn how to use it will be great?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best Regards,
> Yu
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:15 PM, André L <andre-andre at hotmail.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hello Yu,
>>
>> Have a look at this document:
>>
>> http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs7/sw0636_SignWriting_Alphabet_Manual_2010.pdf
>>
>> Also
>> http://www.signwriting.org/downloads/
>> and
>> http://www.movementwriting.org/symbolbank/
>>
>> André Lemyre
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:36:23 -0400
>> From: yz13kh at STUDENT.OCADU.CA
>> Subject: SW Keyboard
>> To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
>>
>>
>> Hi my friends,
>>
>> Is there any place to take a look at all the small parts of SW? So that I
>> can roughly know how many keys could be.
>>
>> Thank you!!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Yu
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