[Sw-l] SignPuddle 2 and 3: is it possible to save pictures of signs?

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
June 17, 2019

Hello Steve and Daniele -
Thank you for this discussion. Thank you, Steve, for giving the details I did not know ;-)

Regarding International Sign Language... SignPuddle is free online for anyone to use and to add signs and create dictionaries and literature. If someone knows International Sign Language, they are welcome to create a dictionary of it, using SignPuddle, writing it in SignWriting, for the world to benefit from. If you know someone skilled in IS, maybe they can start adding signs to the WO dictionary, that stands for WORLD:

International Sign Languages (and there are several)
http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/index1.html#sgn-WO

When you go to the link above, you will notice an icon and link to an international sign language called "Vortaro". It is connected with "Esperanto" for spoken languages. The "Esperanto" related sign language is also called SignUno I believe...

SignUno or Vortaro
http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=11&sgn=54

Thank you to the creators of this wonderful file online - there are over 2000 entries!

Val ;-)

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> On Jun 17, 2019, at 8:05 AM, Stephen Slevinski <slevin at SIGNPUDDLE.NET> wrote:
> 
> Hi Daniele Giacomini,
> 
> Thanks for the questions, clarification and feedback.
> 
> SignPuddle 3 is quickly approaching a beta release.  Last week, I found an issue that needed addressed.  I should be able to fix it this week.
> 
> 
> On 6/17/19 6:34 AM, Daniele Giacomini wrote:
> 
>> SignPuddle 3 client: https://signpuddle.com/client/#!/dictionary/ise-IT-dictionary-public <https://signpuddle.com/client/#!/dictionary/ise-IT-dictionary-public> --> SignMaker
>> It is possible to export (copy) the Unicode sequence generated by drawing, but (at least at the moment) it is not possible to get the drawing pasting the Unicode sequence from a different source (while on SignMaker 2017 that is possible).
> This is already possible on my development machine.  It will be publicly available soon.  Additionally, you will be able to link directly to signmaker and you will be able to include the sign to load in the URL.
> 
> This link doesn't work yet, but it will in the next release.
> https://signpuddle.com/client/#!/dictionary/ise-IT-dictionary-public/signmaker?sign= <https://signpuddle.com/client/#!/dictionary/ise-IT-dictionary-public/signmaker?sign=>𝠃𝤛𝤵񍉡𝣴𝣵񆄱𝤌𝤆񈠣𝤉𝤚
> 
>> It is not possibile to export (to save in my local computer) the picture generated by drawing -- in SignMaker  2017 (http://www.signbank.org/signmaker/#?ui=en <http://www.signbank.org/signmaker/#?ui=en>) I can go to More --> PNG save --> Download.
> Thanks for mentioning this.  I will add this to the beta release and it will be available as well.
> 
> 
>> SignPuddle 2 --> SignMaker http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/signmaker.php?ui=1&sgn=63 <http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/signmaker.php?ui=1&sgn=63>
>> I don't find any possibility to deal with the Unicode sequence, as I can do instead with SignMaker 2017.
>> I don't find any possibility to export (to save in my local computer) the picture generated by drawing.
> SignPuddle 2 can only export the Unicode sequences.
> 
> To get an image out of SignPuddle 2, create the sign in SignMaker.  Click the Add to SignPuddle button.  On the save page, instead of clicking on a flag, scroll down to the "Other Sign Options".  Click the "Customize Sign" button.
> 
>> SignPuddle 2 --> SignText http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/signtext.php?ui=1&sgn=63 <http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/signtext.php?ui=1&sgn=63>
>> I don't find any possibility to deal with the Unicode sequence.
>> I don't find any possibility to export (to save in my local computer) the picture generated by drawing.
> You can get the Unicode sequences and images from SignText in SignPuddle 2 similar to the above.  After you write the sign text document, click the save button.  Scroll down past the flags to the "Other sign text options section".  Use ColumnMaker for images and use "Data Formats" for the Unicode sequences.  Use the "SWU" button which stands for SignWriting in Unicode.
> 
>> I take this occasion to ask an additional thing: I don't find any IS (International Sign) flag for dictionaries in SignPuddle or SignMaker 2017. Is there a reason? I observe that the site spreadthesign.com <http://spreadthesign.com/> considers International Sign and it uses a blue flag.
> The International Sign Language dictionary is available here:
> https://signpuddle.com/client/#!/dictionary/ils-QU-dictionary-public <https://signpuddle.com/client/#!/dictionary/ils-QU-dictionary-public>
> 
> It does not have a flag Icon yet.  SignPuddle 3 uses language codes and country codes.  Unfortunately, there is not country code for international or world.  I used "QU" as user assigned, but this doesn't feel right.  I may switch it to "WO" with a blue flag with a world in the center like in SignPuddle 2.
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> 
> Regards,
> -Steve
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