[Sw-l] Brazillian Encyclopedia

Tue May 21 18:48:17 UTC 2019

Hi Steve.

Thank you for your answer.
I'll write some code to convert my KSW data to FSW and after I will use
your site to convert to SWU.
After your answer, I went to my data file and found some SignTexts wrote in
a different format.
I.e.: AS10041S10049S20600M18x23S10041n3xn7S10049n17xn7S20600n11xn23
I'm wondering how to convert this SignText to FSW because I can't see the
same pattern at the beginning of this SignText like the one you converted
as an example.

Em ter, 21 de mai de 2019 às 11:09, Stephen Slevinski <slevin at signpuddle.net>
escreveu:

> On 5/20/19 4:41 PM, Marcos Aurélio Hermogenes Boriola wrote:
>
> I'm currently working with this kind of SignText:
> i.e.: M19x16S203404xn16S22a044x1S2fb04n18x8
> M22x38S15a52n5xn3S26600n1xn38S15a5an21x26S20500n4x13 S38700n37xn4
> M21x30S15a02n6xn29S2fb04n20x24S22b042xn13 S38700n37xn4
> M18x24S17620n17xn8S115003xn23S26506n7x10
> M25x29S14c51n20xn29S27103n2x3S2fc04n25x5
> M24x31S14c28n9x0S10013n8xn18S2880a2xn30S20e00n24xn2
> M12x28S14c28n11xn13S22510n10xn28S2f900n5x23 S38800n36xn4
> M17x23S100502xn22S10058n16xn22S20600n10x12
> M33x15S1c518n32xn14S1c5103xn14S20600n11x4 S38800n36xn4
>
> I thought it was SWU, correct me if I'm wrong.
> But if this isn't SWU, could you help to convert or get the SWU from my
> current SignText?
> Even because I'm building a translation tool so I think it would be better
> if it works with the new format of SignText.
>
>
> You are using an older format than Formal SignWriting in ASCII (FSW).  It
> is the same except for the coordinate range.  To update to FSW, you need to
> adjust the coordinates.  Symbol keys are 6 characters long.  Coordinates
> are separated by the letter "x" and "n" means negative.  The format is
> called Kartesian SignWriting (KSW).  The irregular spelling because of the
> irregular coordinates.
>
> The first sign is M19x16S203404xn16S22a044x1S2fb04n18x8
>
> We can break this apart as:
> M 19x16 S20340 4xn16 S22a04 4x1 S2fb04 n18x8
>
> M (19,16) S20340 (4,-16) S22a04 (4,1) S2fb04 (-18,8)
>
> This older format is based on the center of a sign as the coordinate
> (0,0).  For FSW, the center was changed to be (500,500).  This makes the
> data more regular and easier to parse.  So the sign becomes:
>
> M (519,516) S20340 (504,484) S22a04 (504,501) S2fb04 (482,508)
>
> M519x516S20340504x484S22a04504x501S2fb04482x508
>
> Formal SignWriting in ASCII (FSW) is easy to parse, but it looks like data
> rather than anything related to sign.
> https://SteveSlevinski.me/#standard2012
>
> SignWriting in Unicode (SWU) is the latest standard.  It looks more like
> sign language than data.  To view, it requires the Sutton SignWriting One D
> font.  It will be compatible with the Sutton SignWriting Two D font once it
> is available.
> https://SteveSlevinski.me/#standard2017
>
> The first sign encoded in SWU looks like the image below.  It contains the
> same information as FSW, but it is easier to read.
>
>
> If you have the Sutton SignWriting One D font installed, the string below
> will look like the image above.
> 𝠃𝤙𝤖񆅡𝤊𝣶񆿅𝤊𝤇񋸥𝣴𝤎
>
> As for conversion, if you can use PHP, the PersonalPuddle has the
> functions you need.  In the file msw.php, the functions you need are
> ksw2fsw and fsw2swu.
>
> For the conversion of FSW to SWU, you can convert online a few different
> places.  First on one of my demo sites.  Paste in your FSW and press the
> "Set SWU" button.
> https://SteveSlevinski.me/demo/fsw.html
>
> Additionally, for JavaScript, there is the Sutton SignWriting project.  To
> use it online, paste in your text and look at the ssw.fsw2swu function
> results.  This project is available for download.
> https://slevinski.github.io/SuttonSignWriting/components/js.html
>
> Good luck,
> -Steve
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Em seg, 20 de mai de 2019 às 17:50, Stephen Slevinski <
> slevin at signpuddle.net> escreveu:
>
>> On 5/20/19 11:48 AM, Marcos Aurélio Hermogenes Boriola wrote:
>> > After that, I went deeper on SignPuddle website and found my answer.
>> > I accessed the Brazillian Literature after I went to the Export option
>> > and Downloaded the Entire Puddle on the SignPuddle Markup Language part.
>> > I need this file because I'll use the Sign Text and the Portuguese
>> > Text too.
>> >
>> Hi Marcos Aurélio Hermogenes Boriola,
>>
>> I'm glad you found what you need.  The SignText in the SPML file is
>> encoded with Formal SignWriting in ASCII (FSW).  If you would like the
>> text encoded in SignWriting in Unicode (SWU), I can help with that, just
>> let me know.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Steve
>> https://SteveSevinski.me
>>
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