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[John Carlson]

I found this:   https://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/MOMENT   .  Can this be
added to SignWriting?

Thanks,

John

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 5:03 AM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:

> I ran into a slight problem translating Natural Semantic Metalanguage
> English exponents.
>
> For example, "moment" and "anymore" wouldn't translate.
>
>
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4&build=moment&action=translate
>
>
>
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4&build=anymore&action=translate
> <http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4&build=moment&action=translate>
>
> Gave a symbol that I associate with failure to find what it was looking
> for.
>
> Thanks for any assistance!
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:31 PM Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
> wrote:
>
>> SignWriting List
>> October 29, 2019
>>
>> Hi John -
>> This sounds very interesting. This could possibly be a project for an MA
>> degree or Ph.D dissertation in animation or software development. Some of
>> the excellent programs that are used today in the SignWriting world stem
>> from bright enthusiastic students who had good ideas and tested their ideas
>> while studying at a university. And very interesting when they post
>> announcements or questions here on the list.
>>
>> So keep us informed if you find others who want to work on this project.
>>
>> By the way, if you are having trouble seeing on computers, you are right
>> there are larger fonts, and you can also access features developed for
>> people with sight impairment. Under "Accessibility" on some computers, you
>> can turn your screen black and the letters can become white or yellow, and
>> that can help sometimes too. I use that occasionally. Recently the Mac has
>> a new OS 10.14.6 called "Mojave" and it has a new feature where your entire
>> screen can be black and all type is white - it is rather exciting to work
>> that way and easier on our eyes sometimes.
>>
>> All the best - Val ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 5:47 PM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My goal is to create a way to use computers which does not depend on
>>> reading very small symbols that ache my head or my eyes. Perhaps I should
>>> use larger fonts or (yuck) glasses.  But to distract from the ache in my
>>> head, I try to come up with a solution that is beyond the sedentary
>>> lifestyle.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some of us have worked on using Natural Semantic Metalanguage (NSM) for
>>> translation.  Others have studied 3D ontologies.   Others have studied
>>> humanoid modelling and animation. What I would like to work on in addition,
>>> is the Fluid Movement Semantic Metalanguage (FMSM) problem as well, if not
>>> solved by Valerie Sutton in her MovementWriting and SignWriting work.
>>> Perhaps the concept of Semantic can unify Fluid Movement (physical
>>> linguistics) and Sign (key frame), similar to how Symbol unifies Movie and
>>> Shape (my focus, based on PostScript, X3D/VRML and shading languages with a
>>> hats off to Ted Nelson). I believe this would mean that we would have to
>>> come up with Prime Shapes (in addition to Prime Semantics from NSM). I
>>> believe these Prime Shapes can come from MovementWriting icons (or the
>>> programs that create the icons) or from X3D/VRML ontologies. If we extend
>>> our thinking into time, then Signs and Shapes would become animated into
>>> Fluid Movement and Movies (possibly of hyperdimension).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What I’ve left out so far is the semantics of grouping.  Please
>>> discuss.  I think we’re just getting to that in X3D Models in the semantics
>>> group.
>>>
>>>
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