[Sw-l] [SPAM] Re: More

Jonathan Duncan 00000002a18e4451-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Fri Aug 21 20:55:37 UTC 2020


Hi John,

     The SignPuddle is a public dictionnary you can add it yourself here.

https://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/signmaker.php?ui=1&sgn=4

Jonathan

On 8/20/2020 4:18 AM, John Carlson wrote:
> I found this: https://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/MOMENT  .  Can this be 
> added to SignWriting?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 5:03 AM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com 
> <mailto:yottzumm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I ran into a slight problem translating Natural Semantic
>     Metalanguage English exponents.
>
>     For example, "moment" and "anymore" wouldn't translate.
>
>     http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4&build=moment&action=translate
>
>
>     http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4&build=anymore&action=translate
>     <http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4&build=moment&action=translate>
>
>     Gave a symbol that I associate with failure to find what it was
>     looking for.
>
>     Thanks for any assistance!
>
>     John
>
>     On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:31 PM Valerie Sutton
>     <sutton at signwriting.org <mailto:sutton at signwriting.org>> wrote:
>
>         SignWriting List
>         October 29, 2019
>
>         Hi John -
>         This sounds very interesting. This could possibly be a project
>         for an MA degree or Ph.D dissertation in animation or software
>         development. Some of the excellent programs that are used
>         today in the SignWriting world stem from bright enthusiastic
>         students who had good ideas and tested their ideas while
>         studying at a university. And very interesting when they post
>         announcements or questions here on the list.
>
>         So keep us informed if you find others who want to work on
>         this project.
>
>         By the way, if you are having trouble seeing on computers, you
>         are right there are larger fonts, and you can also access
>         features developed for people with sight impairment. Under
>         "Accessibility" on some computers, you can turn your screen
>         black and the letters can become white or yellow, and that can
>         help sometimes too. I use that occasionally. Recently the Mac
>         has a new OS 10.14.6 called "Mojave" and it has a new feature
>         where your entire screen can be black and all type is white -
>         it is rather exciting to work that way and easier on our eyes
>         sometimes.
>
>         All the best - Val ;-)
>
>
>
>         On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 5:47 PM John Carlson
>         <yottzumm at gmail.com <mailto:yottzumm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Hello All,
>
>             My goal is to create a way to use computers which does not
>             depend on reading very small symbols that ache my head or
>             my eyes. Perhaps I should use larger fonts or (yuck)
>             glasses.  But to distract from the ache in my head, I try
>             to come up with a solution that is beyond the sedentary
>             lifestyle.
>
>             Some of us have worked on using Natural Semantic
>             Metalanguage (NSM) for translation.  Others have studied
>             3D ontologies.   Others have studied humanoid modelling
>             and animation. What I would like to work on in addition,
>             is the Fluid Movement Semantic Metalanguage (FMSM) problem
>             as well, if not solved by Valerie Sutton in her
>             MovementWriting and SignWriting work.  Perhaps the concept
>             of Semantic can unify Fluid Movement (physical
>             linguistics) and Sign (key frame), similar to how Symbol
>             unifies Movie and Shape (my focus, based on PostScript,
>             X3D/VRML and shading languages with a hats off to Ted
>             Nelson). I believe this would mean that we would have to
>             come up with Prime Shapes (in addition to Prime Semantics
>             from NSM). I believe these Prime Shapes can come from
>             MovementWriting icons (or the programs that create the
>             icons) or from X3D/VRML ontologies. If we extend our
>             thinking into time, then Signs and Shapes would become
>             animated into Fluid Movement and Movies (possibly of
>             hyperdimension).
>
>             What I’ve left out so far is the semantics of grouping. 
>             Please discuss.  I think we’re just getting to that in X3D
>             Models in the semantics group.
>
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