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Wed Sep 15 10:05:36 UTC 2021

This arm lines may be the solution. I'll try to make a short video today
showing what I'm trying to register. Thank you for the help.

Vanessa Cristina da Silva Ferreira

Mestranda em Educação em Ciências e Matemática/PPGEduCIMAT/UFRRJ
Licenciada em Física/UFRRJ
Colaboradora do Coletivo PNE/UFRRJ
Colaboradora do Projeto Cultura Visual - Imersão na Libras - DLC/UFRRJ
Colaboradora do Projeto Meninas do Radium - LEFERCE - UFRRJ

Em ter, 14 de set de 2021 14:55, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> escreveu:

> Yes, I think the arm lines might work for Vanessa’s purposes to be able to
> show the details desired.
>
> Of course, you are right that we have been using word descriptions in
> English to explain what is desired where a video would be best. So I will
> resound Val’s request for a video to demonstrate what is actually being
> asked to be written. Can you send us a video? ;-)
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Sep 14, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG>
> wrote:
>
> SignWriting List
> September 14, 2021
>
> Hi everyone -
> How are you signing all this to your students and readers in LIBRAS? Send
> us a short sign language video in LIBRAS to show us the exact signs and
> sentences you want to write. We do not know your sign language, so we
> cannot know what you want to write without the video.
>
> If your sign language video is long, post the video on YouTube and provide
> us with the link.
>
> We look forward to seeing your video if you can provide it -
>
>
> Valerie Sutton
> sutton at signwriting.org
>
> -------------
>
> On Sep 13, 2021, at 6:50 PM, Física em Libras <
> tr.vanessa.ferreira at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> I dont think i understood what you said, but usually the moon looks like a
> snake.
> https://phet.colorado.edu/pt/simulations/gravity-and-orbits
> This is a good place to find simulations, and in this one you can see the
> earth's trajectory around the Sun, and the moon's trajectory around the
> Earth while they are together going around the Sun. Bu i´m not talking
> about the barycenter of the planet.
> <image.png>
>
> This image we see in the next imagem, The Sun is not at the center, the
> Earth is angled around 23º while rotation, and also the equatorial plane is
> not the horizontal plane
> <image.png>
> <image.png>
> And that's why I need to write all these details so people can understand
> and remember how Earth is orbiting the Sun.
>
>
> Em seg., 13 de set. de 2021 às 21:48, John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com
> > escreveu:
> This occurred to me today, but I saw an orbit once where the Earth
> was snaking around in orbit.  I think the center of the earth in orbit may
> be more like a corkscrew or slinky wire though.   That's not why we have
> seasons.
>
> On 9/13/21 7:42 PM, Física em Libras wrote:
>
> I got it, but I really need this angle, I'm trying to explain why we have
> seasons, and it's because of the angle that the Earth spins around
> itself, and also because of the angle with the horizontal plane that Earth
> moves around the Sun, and that the Sun is not at the center of the
> translation. So I can have all the important details for "orbit" explained.
> I don't know if it's clear now, but thank you so much for trying to help me.
>
> Just like in these images, I need to write this angle.
>
> <image.png><image.png>
>
>
>
> Em seg., 13 de set. de 2021 às 14:21, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com
> > escreveu:
> Ok. So the handshapes are in front of the body and tilted forward so
> that the finger side of the hand is lower than the wrist. Hmm…
>
> If you are writing for everyday use, I would suggest sticking to wall or
> floor plane by using whichever one would imply the tilting forward the
> best. It could be the wall plane to show that the fingers are lower than
> the wrist because this placement of the hand is rarely used in this extreme
> but when relaxed becomes the angle you referred to, for example.
> <Screen Shot 2021-09-13 at 10.13.39 AM.png>
>
> However, if you are writing for that specific 45 degree tilt
> detailed representation, you might need to use detailed symbols. I’m not
> sure that location symbols would suffice for you, but the symbol you used
> mean the height from the signer on the upper righthand side. It
> doesn’t mean the angle of the hand.
>
> <namesign.png>
> Adam
>
> On Sep 13, 2021, at 10:01 AM, Física em Libras <
> tr.vanessa.ferreira at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> It would be parallel to your body but angled 45° considering your
> shoulder line. Rotation on floor or wall plane I can understand, but
> how can I show a oblique plane between them?
>
> Vanessa Cristina da Silva Ferreira
>
> Mestranda em Educação em Ciências e Matemática/PPGEduCIMAT/UFRRJ
> Licenciada em Física/UFRRJ
> Colaboradora do Coletivo PNE/UFRRJ
> Colaboradora do Projeto Cultura Visual - Imersão na Libras - DLC/UFRRJ
> Colaboradora do Projeto Meninas do Radium - LEFERCE - UFRRJ
>
> Em seg, 13 de set de 2021 13:53, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com>
>                       escreveu:
> Hello Vanessa,
>
> I just want to make sure I understand what you are asking before I suggest
> a writing.
>
> If I were to look down at my hands doing this configuration from the
> top view, I would see them angled from by body about 45 degrees
> rather than parallel to my body. Is that correct?
>
> <namesign.png>
> Adam
>
> On Sep 13, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Física em Libras <
> tr.vanessa.ferreira at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon to everyone.
> I need to write this sign but I don't know how to write it on the
> "floor plane" but show this angle with the horizontal.
>
>
> Can I use this to show it?
> <image.png><image.png>
>
>
>
> --
> Vanessa Cristina da Silva Ferreira
>
> Mestranda em Educação em Ciências e Matemática/PPGEduCIMAT/UFRRJ
> Licenciada em Física/UFRRJ
> Colaboradora do Coletivo PNE/UFRRJ
> Colaboradora do Projeto Cultura Visual - Imersão na Libras - DLC/UFRRJ
> Colaboradora do Projeto Meninas do Radium - LEFERCE - UFRRJ
> @física_em_libras
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>  <namesign.png><namesign.png>
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>
> Mestranda em Educação em Ciências e Matemática/PPGEduCIMAT/UFRRJ
> Licenciada em Física/UFRRJ
> Colaboradora do Coletivo PNE/UFRRJ
> Colaboradora do Projeto Cultura Visual - Imersão na Libras - DLC/UFRRJ
> Colaboradora do Projeto Meninas do Radium - LEFERCE - UFRRJ
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> Mestranda em Educação em Ciências e Matemática/PPGEduCIMAT/UFRRJ
> Licenciada em Física/UFRRJ
> Colaboradora do Coletivo PNE/UFRRJ
> Colaboradora do Projeto Cultura Visual - Imersão na Libras - DLC/UFRRJ
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