[Sw-l] Rules or not?

Josenilson da Silva Mendes jsm88b at GMAIL.COM
Wed Aug 10 17:58:04 UTC 2022


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Josenilson Mendes


Em qua., 10 de ago. de 2022 às 14:42, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <
jsm88b at gmail.com> escreveu:

>
> Em qua., 10 de ago. de 2022 02:11, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
> escreveu:
>
>> SignWriting List
>> August 9, 2022
>>
>> Very interesting.
>>
>> Can you attach a short video showing the sign? That will really help.
>>
>> You are correct that simple contact is quite different than actually
>> grasping clothing or holding a belly. The Grasp Symbol was developed to
>> show holding something. For example holding somebody else's hand in dance,
>> or pinching your ear, or pinching your clothing. But if the hands are only
>> touching the chest but not really holding anything then you are right that
>> a contact star is all you need. Or maybe you do not need a contact symbol
>> there at all.
>>
>> However I still feel the need to see the sign because I'm not quite sure
>> what I'm reading. Are the two hands in front of the belly or torso? With
>> the fingers intertwined with each other doing a movement 2 times in-between
>> each other?
>>
>> Can the two hands be placed closer to each other directly in the Torso
>> area between the Shoulder and Hip Lines?
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Valerie Sutton
>> sutton at signwiting.org
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 9:04 PM, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Valerie and friends of SW-List!
>>
>> It's about the symbol + (grasp contact). Some people say it is used to
>> indicate permanent contact. I disagree. For example:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mapinguari (indigenous legend)
>>
>> For me the + symbol should be replaced by *, because the hands don't hold
>> the belly,they just stay in contact with it.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Josenilson Mendes
>>
>>
>> Em qua., 10 de ago. de 2022 às 00:23, Valerie Sutton <
>> sutton at signwriting.org> escreveu:
>> SignWriting List
>> August 9, 2022
>>
>> Hello Josenilson!
>> It is great to read your message. Thank you for writing to the
>> SignWriting List.
>>
>> Yes, for me at least, I follow Writing Guidelines when writing sign
>> languages.
>>
>> For example, these two rules or guidelines mean a lot to me personally. I
>> follow these everytime I write:
>>
>> SignSpelling Rule 1: Write the Position of Contact
>> https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less063.html
>>
>> SignSpelling Rule 2: Every Sign Has A Center
>> https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less064.html
>>
>> and it continues for many pages following on the web…
>>
>> These guidelines can also be found at the end of the
>>
>> Lessons in SignWriting Textbook
>> https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs2/sw0116-Lessons-SignWriting.pdf
>>
>> We had long discussions early in 2022 about guidelines for writing
>> movement arrows and I had planned to write up a report about our decisions
>> that we made together and then I got so busy I didn't get to it. Maybe now
>> is the time to get back into more discussions?
>>
>> So what specific questions do you have?
>>
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
>> _______________
>>
>>
>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 7:30 PM, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, SW-List!
>> Here in Brazil, we are in a discussion about whether or not threre are
>> rules for SW.
>>
>> This page https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/ has spelling
>> rules or not?
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>>
>> Josenilson Mendes
>>
>>
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