[Sw-l] words to ASL in English. How about HAnim?

Tue Dec 20 17:41:35 UTC 2022

SignWriting List
December 20, 2022.

Hi John and SignWriting List members,
The SignWriting system is not a way to describe Signs with English or any spoken language. In fact, that's the very reason why I invented SignWriting was I didn't want to have to describe movement with a spoken language.

So SignWriting is visual.

The visual symbols are what I was looking for but no I never got any visual symbols from the program, ChatGPT. That is purely spoken language descriptions as far as I can tell…. and that is good and a gift! That is cool that they put a lot of spoken language descriptions of signs into a database - all is good for the world.

Meanwhile others are developing ways of translating between the visual symbols of SignWriting with spoken languages… and there are also apps that can access the SignPuddle dictionaries to paste sentences together from a spoken language - I will use the SWSignWriter app next to create my written SignWriting (visual symbols) Holiday card -

Val ;-)

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> On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:25 AM, John Carlson <yottzumm at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> I just sent english and got back an English description of what might have been SignWriting?
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> John
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> GL
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> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 11:21 AM Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
> But how are you writing Merry Christmas in SignWriting? With FSW? With SWU? A graphic like a png did not work… and it got upset with FSW… how did you write the SignWriting so it accepted it?
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> > On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:16 AM, John Carlson <yottzumm at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> > Try 
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> > Write “Merry Christmas” in SignWriting.
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> > It should describe how to create the SignWriting images in English.
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> > Or try “peace be with you”,  “I love you” etc.
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> > Maybe try creating SignWriting descriptions in French, etc.
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> > John 
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> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 11:00 AM Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
> > OK. I copied this image into the text area:
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> > The image was called Merry_Christmas_ASL.png
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> > I then got this back (see attached) but the description in English does not match the sign that I wrote in SignWriting. There are many different ways to sign Merry Christmas and they described in English a different sign… so this is not really SignWriting in a database, is it? I think they got the information from the name I gave the png, not from the written SignWriting symbols, since they were a graphic, maybe I should try to paste FSW?… No matter what, thank you for pointing this program out to us and thank you to everyone involved with these wonderful new programs ;-)
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