[Sw-l] Six SignWriting Topics

Jonathan Duncan joyoduncan at GMAIL.COM
Sun Dec 25 16:22:21 UTC 2022


Hi Carlos, Uta, Val and list,

     Have you started the weekly zoom meetings yet for producing the 
videos? Or is that still a work in progress?

Jonathan

On 11/14/2022 10:18 AM, Carlos Cristian Libras wrote:
> Uta and List...
>
> I was talking to Valerie privately about this project and I came to 
> the conclusion that we need to have languages other than International 
> Signs.
>  We can elect one or more representatives for each sign language 
> active in that community and create a standard roadmap. And this 
> script will be available later on signwriting.org 
> <http://signwriting.org> so that if in a few years some other sign 
> language wants to continue the project, they will already have the 
> script in hand, just needing to record and adapt small parts for the 
> local culture.
>  Soon (when the other ongoing projects are finished or nearing 
> completion) we will send an email to the entire list asking who from 
> each country volunteers for this project.
>  My initial plan is to have a weekly zoom meeting between these 
> participants to organize the script together and determine the order 
> of content, deadline and collaboration.
>
>  We have a lot to gain from this exchange and signwriting will become 
> more present around the world.
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 12:11 PM Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>     Dear Val, your idea of making sign writing accessible to more deaf
>     people through video tutorials is great. I myself belong to the
>     group that has difficulty reading English. It's my foreign language.
>
>     There are already some tutorial videos in ASL from SignWriting.
>     https://www.youtube.com/signwriting or more precisely
>     https://www.youtube.com/c/SignWritingOrg/playlists?view=50&sort=dd&shelf_id=2
>     <https://www.youtube.com/c/SignWritingOrg/playlists?view=50&sort=dd&shelf_id=2>
>     I think that's a good thing, just that it's not enough. :)
>
>     I also created some tutorial videos myself in DGS. Unfortunately,
>     this website no longer exists, which surprises me. I hope this
>     page will be back online. www.delegs.de <http://www.delegs.de>
>
>     I think, so that the project isn't that big, it's good to focus on
>     international first. I think quite a lot of people would be able
>     to understand international language videos because it's more show
>     than sign.
>     But I don't know how many of us here dare to do it :) I can do
>     International Sign, but I don't know if my skills are good enough.
>     The videos are permanently online.
>
>     I also have questions about the wrist movements. :)
>
>     Best regards
>     Uta
>
>     On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 12:07 AM Carlos Cristian Libras
>     <carloscristianlibras at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Good night Val and the whole broadcast list...
>
>         This morning I felt in my heart to do translations of some
>         topics into Brazilian Sign Language and American Sign
>         Language. I think in some spiritual way we are connected.
>         I am available to translate to Libras and ASL. But watching
>         some videos of Mauricios Barreto, I felt like trying to do it
>         in International Signs.
>
>         In the afternoon I was writing the script for a video that
>         would be an introduction where I would explain in an updated
>         and modern way "what is Signwriting?"
>
>         But I didn't record it, I was just drafting the script. That
>         email of yours encouraged me to continue.
>
>         I need to see the response of the other participants to see
>         what my next move will be.
>
>         On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 6:00 PM Valerie Sutton
>         <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
>
>             SignWriting List
>             November 13, 2022
>
>             Dear SW List Members -
>
>             I need your help.
>
>             Can we create a collaborative YouTube channel for
>             International SignWriting Instruction using video in your
>             sign languages?
>
>             I spoke with Steve Slevinski, and he suggested that,
>             rather than creating a web page, it will be better if we
>             collaborate as a group, to create a new YouTube Channel,
>             that gives SignWriting educators in each country the
>             collaborative membership in the Channel, so everyone can
>             post their videos that teach SignWriting topics in their
>             sign languages.
>
>             Hopefully the YouTube Channel can be administered by
>             several people, and each country will have their place and
>             permission to post instruction videos in their sign
>             languages, linking in some way to my English book
>             instruction, and also linking to the SignWriting YouTube
>             Channel that we already have, but it will be only for
>             teaching SignWriting topics.
>
>             Shall we call it something like:
>
>             “SignWriting Instruction Channel”
>
>             or…
>
>             SignWriting Lessons International
>
>             or…
>
>             What would you call it?
>
>             And can someone help me set it up on YouTube?
>
>             Then I will create a Lesson and try to link to your videos -
>
>             I am struggling a little because I do not know how to do
>             this - hope you can help me - it could become a valuable
>             way for people to see your instruction - here on the SW
>             List it is limited because not everyone knows how to use
>             the SW List and so we are not reaching as many people -
>
>             Any ideas? Do you already have collaborative YouTube channels?
>
>             Val ;-)
>
>             __________
>
>
>
>
>
>             > On Nov 11, 2022, at 1:11 PM, Valerie Sutton
>             <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG> wrote:
>             >
>             > SignWriting List
>             > November 11, 2022
>             >
>             > Hello SW List members and Carlos Cristian Libras!
>             >
>             > Thank you for this message, Carlos, back on November
>             8th. I did not forget it. I look forward to working with
>             all of you on creating a video library of instruction
>             videos in different sign languages, all available on the
>             same topic, on a web site that is easy to find the topic
>             in both spoken and signed languages.
>             >
>             > On one hand, it is a large project, but on the other
>             hand, it solves many issues.
>             >
>             > Here on the SW List, and in my web pages and old and new
>             textbooks, that are not perfect, we can first document the
>             instruction, but then from that basis, the video
>             instruction can blossom…with new terminology possibly
>             shared by sign languages and it could become quite a
>             global community project -
>             >
>             > Right now, Carlos and Rubens have expressed interest in
>             the LIBRAS part of it, and of course there are so many
>             talented people from all over the world on our SignWriting
>             List to support other languages…
>             >
>             > So I want to share the Six SignWriting Topics of
>             instruction that will show how our writing styles have
>             really been evolving - Adam and I had a FaceTime meeting
>             the other day on Wrist Flexing and it is fascinating to
>             see an evolution in writing styles…I will explain soon...
>             >
>             > Thank you for being interested and for the videos you
>             already have created, Carlos!
>             >
>             > Val ;-)
>             >
>             > ---------
>             >
>             >> On Nov 8, 2022, at 12:54 PM, Carlos Cristian Libras
>             <carloscristianlibras at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>             >>
>             >> Dear Val, my cordial wishes.
>             >> I also greet everyone on the list.
>             >>
>             >> I am very happy with the news. We had already talked
>             off-line many times about this, there is really an urgent
>             need to improve the official materials that are the
>             signwriting reference. And more than that, that the new
>             materials also have a signed version, because many deaf
>             people do not read oral languages, they only depend on video.
>             >> I'm looking forward to the new step and I'm 100%
>             available to help with anything you need.
>             > ___________
>             >
>             >>
>             >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 4:03 PM Valerie Sutton
>             <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
>             >> SignWriting List
>             >> November 8, 2022
>             >>
>             >> Hello SignWriting List members!
>             >>
>             >> My dear friends - It is a privilege to share
>             discussions of SignWriting symbols and evolving writing
>             styles with you. Thank you for your interest and your
>             important projects.
>             >>
>             >> I hope to start a series of discussions now - on 6
>             topics that seem to be important, partly because our
>             textbooks and instruction materials need to be improved,
>             and partly because writing styles and choices by writers
>             have changed and are evolving over the years...
>             >>
>             >> SignWriting is evolving because it is a true writing
>             system used on a daily basis around the world. That is a
>             wonderful fact with thousands of writers daily...
>             >>
>             >> Here is what I hope to discuss in the next few months...
>             >>
>             >> Six Topics
>             >>
>             >> 1. Viewpoints, Space & Planes
>             >>
>             >> 2. General Arrowhead
>             >>
>             >> 3. Arm Rotation
>             >>
>             >> 4. Wrist Flexing
>             >>
>             >> 5. Torso & Body Movement
>             >>
>             >> 6. Dynamics & Punctuation
>             >>
>             >>
>             >> So I hope to start posting on these topics - in fact I
>             can see we already have questions about Torso Movements
>             and Wrist Flexing - thank you for your messages -
>             >>
>             >> So have a great day and I will answer and start posting
>             as soon as I can -
>             >
>             > ________________________________________________
>             >
>             >
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>             >
>             > Valerie Sutton
>             > SignWriting List moderator
>             > sutton at signwriting.org
>             >
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