[Sw-l] Between floor and wall arm rotation

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting list
February 5, 2022

And to answer your question, when we really are writing rotation symbols (movements that do not travel but just change palm facing), we do not have a diagonal plane version of the rotation symbols. There are only two planes to choose from for Rotation Symbols. The forearm is either parallel to the floor or parallel to the Wall - I have never seen yet a sign that is misunderstood because a diagonal forearm would change the meaning of the sign.

In this case this sign means “homogeneous" in English (in German “homogen”) and homogeneous in English means like a family or group that blends well together. The movements look a little like the sign for FAMILY in ASL, and although I know the meanings may be different, I think the curved traveling movement fits with the meaning of the sign, at least that is the way it feels to me.

There are always questions with Rotation Symbols and how to write them so feel free to keep asking questions - 

Thanks so much for sharing.

Val ;-)

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> On Feb 5, 2022, at 9:27 PM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG> wrote:
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> SignWriting List
> February 5, 2022
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> Hello SignWriting List, Uta and Adam,
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> Regarding this video:
> https://sign2mint.de/entry/homogen/5750242766511595:730
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> I agree with you, Adam, that this is a general arm movement because the arm movement TRAVELS. The hands travel from shoulder level to “in front of the chest and lower” in the second position. I would write it this way:
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> Movements that travel are curves that truly move the hands from one space to another.
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> Rotation symbols are movements that do NOT travel. The arm stays in one place while the arm twists from one palm facing to another, while staying in place.
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> So if I were reading the SignWriting with the rotation symbol in this diagram, without seeing the video, I would think that the plam facing changes at shoulder level. I would not know that it traveled down lower, since it is a Rotation Symbol (which means no traveling).
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> Sometimes small rotation symbols are placed on top of traveling arrows - they are combined, because the writer doesn’t want to write the second position but I prefer to write the second position - at least for those who do not know the sign.
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