[Sw-l] Could you proofread my ASL signwriting?

André Thibeault atg at VIDEOTRON.CA
Tue Feb 8 18:46:35 UTC 2022 

Hi everyone,

Most Deaf signer has the single movement for "20"22.  I have 20 cars. Deaf
signer has the double movement for "20" cars.

Best regards,

André

De :  Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM>
Répondre à :  "SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages"
<SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU>
Date :  Tue, 08 Feb 2022 10:24:11 -0800
À :  <SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU>
Objet :  Re: Could you proofread my ASL signwriting?

I would write it like below. Although you could have the double movement for
20, if you would like.



Adam

> On Feb 8, 2022, at 10:11 AM, AnnaGrace Greenfield <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> 
> Adam,
> 
> How would you signwrite "2022"?
> 
> Thanks,
> AnnaGrace
> 
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 1:06 PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I didn¹t even think 6 could be 2022! I guess I can see that, although I would
>> write it with completely different hands.
>> 
>> <namesign.png>
>> Adam
>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 9:58 AM, André Thibeault <atg at VIDEOTRON.CA> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> Adam already answers: 1, 2,3,4 et 5.
>>> 
>>> 6: 2022
>>> 7: EAT ?
>>> 8: EATING (is eating)?
>>> 9: FOOD ?
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Abdré
>>> 
>>> De :  Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM>
>>> Répondre à :  "SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages"
>>> <SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU>
>>> Date :  Tue, 08 Feb 2022 09:22:51 -0800
>>> À :  <SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU>
>>> Objet :  Re: Could you proofread my ASL signwriting?
>>> 
>>> Hello AnnaGrace,
>>> 
>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.06 AM.png>
>>> 
>>> I would assume you meant ³class²; however, the rotation of the hands have
>>> some issues. The first is that the thicker part of the ³C² is the finger
>>> side, so you have a couple of hands upside-down. The other issue is with the
>>> white palm facing. I know there are two different approaches for writing
>>> this facing with angle/hinge/bent/curve hands. One is that every sign has a
>>> center, and as such, these fingers should be directed to the center. The
>>> other is that the thumb should be one the side as it is in real life, which
>>> is what it looks like you are following here. I personally follow the first
>>> approach.
>>> 
>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.14 AM.png>
>>> 
>>> I think you mean ³chair², but I am not sure why the base hand also has bent
>>> fingers. They are never bent when I sign this. In fact, I am starting to not
>>> write the other fingers as bent as well, personally, because I notice I
>>> rarely actually bend the fingers. Same with several of my friends as well.
>>> 
>>>>  <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.21 AM.png>
>>> 
>>> I think you mean ³sit². The same issue with chair applies here as well. I
>>> noticed you used touch for chair instead of grasp like you did for sit. Not
>>> that it¹s wrong, but I thought it was interesting.
>>> 
>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.29 AM.png>
>>> 
>>> I think you mean ³dog², but the movement arrows actually mean the arm
>>> travels. There are other arrows that means the fingers move that are needed
>>> here. The almost look like general movement arrows, but smaller. I also
>>> question if it is actually a back and forth rub movement, or if it is a
>>> back-back brush movement.
>>> 
>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.38 AM.png>
>>> 
>>> I have no clue what this sign is. I would read it as a fist that is facing
>>> away coming diagonally up-right to the chin to touch and then moves back
>>> towards the throat, all with a kiss shaped mouth. Were you trying to write
>>> ³kiss fist²?
>>> 
>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.47.05 AM.png>  <SW ate.png>  <SW eating.png>
>>>> <SW will eat.png>
>>> 
>>> The rest I actually have no idea what they mean. I could try reading them
>>> like I did above, but they don¹t feel like good guesses to me. 6 has a
>>> handshape that looks constructed and I am not sure what is meant by it
>>> because the fingers aren¹t placed in the normal convention. 7, 8, and 9 look
>>> like they are various forms of ³eating², but the handshape is only with the
>>> index and thumb rather than all of them so it leads me to think they have to
>>> do with a bird pecking at the face.
>>> 
>>> <namesign.png>
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 6:51 AM, AnnaGrace Greenfield <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> I've come up with American Sign Language signwriting for nine or ten
>>>> English words. They are displayed at the bottom of this email. I'd like to
>>>> see if your answers are the same as mine. I would like to run them by you
>>>> before I can contribute them to the SignWriting Dictionary.
>>>> Your answers can be next to the corresponding number on the list. Thanks so
>>>> much!
>>>> English answers:
>>>> 1.
>>>> 2.
>>>> 3.
>>>> 4.
>>>> 5.
>>>> 6.
>>>> 7.
>>>> 8.
>>>> 9.
>>>> 
>>>> ASL signwriting:
>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.06 AM.png>  <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at
>>>> 9.35.14 AM.png>  <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.21 AM.png>  <Screen Shot
>>>> 2022-02-08 at 9.35.29 AM.png>   <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.38 AM.png>
>>>>   
>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.47.05 AM.png>  <SW ate.png>  <SW eating.png>
>>>> <SW will eat.png>
>>>> 
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>>> http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1<Screen Shot
>>> 2022-02-08 at 9.35.06 AM.png><Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.14
>>> AM.png><Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.21 AM.png><Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at
>>> 9.35.29 AM.png><Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 9.35.38 AM.png><Screen Shot
>>> 2022-02-08 at 9.47.05 AM.png><SW ate.png><SW eating.png><SW will
>>> eat.png><namesign.png>
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