[Sw-l] SignSpelling with traveling wrist flex movements

Wed Feb 9 20:00:31 UTC 2022

Hi Uta,

Below is a screenshot of where the wrist movements are mentioned in the
"Lessons in SignWriting" textbook. I circled the symbols and the page
number.
When I see an example of a signspelling that includes wrist movements, I
will put it in this thread.
Hope this helps ---
Regards,
AnnaGrace
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On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 2:41 PM Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a great interest in the sign search and its sorting of the found
> results
>
> But damn, I'm unfortunately bad in English and texts about sign language
> is even harder.
> And translation tool is not so good on this topic.
>
> I don't understand, what is the problem?
>
> Adam, you wrote of wrist. But I haven't seen wrist symbols on images. That
> confused me.
>
> Here I was quite welcome, if you can sign here.
>
> Greetings Uta
>
>
>
>
> Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> schrieb am Mi., 9. Feb. 2022,
> 19:24:
>
>> Wonderful Adam!
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 9, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> >
>> > I am leaning towards the same line of thinking as well. I’m glad I
>> caught this before I started mass-adding signs to my dictionary work. That
>> way I only have to change a couple of signs right now. :-)
>> >
>> > <namesign.png>
>> > Adam
>> >
>> >> On Feb 9, 2022, at 10:01 AM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> SignWriting List
>> >> February 9, 2022
>> >>
>> >> Hi Adam,
>> >> I am glad that you're starting a new thread for Traveling Wrist Flex
>> Movements.
>> >>
>> >> These are constructed symbols. The ISWA 2010 has all of the pieces to
>> put them together but they are constructed so it does make searching
>> difficult.
>> >>
>> >> Someday we will find a way to make certain constructed symbols a part
>> of an addendum to the ISWA 2010 so they become units that can be searched
>> for. All of our wonderful software developers are overwhelmed with jobs so
>> I doubt that's going to happen anytime soon so we need to make due right
>> now.
>> >>
>> >> I think you are correct that when we are establishing the SignSpelling
>> Sequence for a sign that has Traveling Flex Symbols, we probably should be
>> sorting by wrist flexing and I think the wrist flexing comes first and the
>> traveling arrows second. What do you think? Anything that would help
>> searching. Because I just tried to search for them and had trouble so we do
>> need to clean this up.
>> >>
>> >> Val ;-)
>> >>
>> >> ------------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 9:35 AM, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I am going to start a new thread, but this now has me thinking about
>> the SignSpelling and sorting with traveling wrist flex movements. :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> First question that comes to mind is should we be using with the
>> wrist flex arrows instead for the SignSpelling? I understand that using it
>> in the actual writing might mess things up in the actual spelling, such as
>> when converted to SVG font, because of the overlapping of the wrist line
>> and the traveling arrow stem. The reason I ask is because it is technically
>> more accurate and might be more helpful for searching.
>> >>>
>> >>> The other question is more of a “chicken or egg” question. Ha! Should
>> the wrist flex arrows come first in the SignSpelling Sequence for these
>> traveling wrist flex movements, or should the traveling arrow come before
>> the wrist flex? I have actually seen it both ways in our sorting. I am not
>> sure if there is a specific reason for that.
>> >>>
>> >>> <namesign.png>
>> >>> Adam
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 9:22 AM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> SignWriting List
>> >>>> February 9, 2022
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yes! That is correct. Glad you mentioned this, Adam. Those are
>> Traveling Wrist Flexes.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Here are some examples of Traveling Wrist Flexes:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> <Image.png>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> <Image.png><Image-1.png>
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