[Sw-l] Scissors Finger Movements

Mon Feb 21 23:31:01 UTC 2022

Hi Adam,

Thank you so much for your feedback! It is much appreciated.

As for the spelling for DOG. I like it - but I do have a question about the
placement of the hinge[image: Screen Shot 2022-02-21 at 6.28.28 PM.png]
 grapheme.
For further clarification on which finger to hinge, I moved the hinge
grapheme to another location
to specify which finger to hinge, which is the middle finger, in the sign
for DOG.
The red arrow below shows where I relocated it.
What are your thoughts?
[image: Screen Shot 2022-02-21 at 6.24.24 PM.png]

Thanks,
AnnaGrace

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 5:12 PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is a possible writing of DOG with the hinge finger movements.
>
> DELICIOUS
>
> SMOOTH
>
> Hmm… I’m not sure how I feel about the last two. Maybe just doing the
> ending handshapes would be more readable in this. I must say that DOG looks
> pretty readable.
>
> What are everyone else's thoughts?
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Feb 21, 2022, at 2:02 PM, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think there is some confusion about the scissor movement. The fingers
> ONLY move side to side, like scissors. The fingers don’t hinge forward
> just as they don’t in the image of scissors here.
>
> <cut-scissors.gif>
>
> So the ASL signs for DOG, DELICIOUS, and SMOOTH would not use the scissor
> finger movement as the fingers hinge forward.
>
> I will be honest that I have never tried writing DELICIOUS or SMOOTH using
> finger movements. I have with DOG, but our discussion about how to write
> the sign WHAT-DO or #DO-DO lead me to think of the possibility of using
> hinge movements for these signs as well. I will try to write them in the
> next email to show what I am thinking. :-)
>
> <namesign.png>
> Adam
>
> On Feb 21, 2022, at 8:27 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> There are two signs I can think of that use the scissor movement that
> starts and ends with a closed position.
>
> They are SMOOTH and DELICIOUS. I am attaching the videos for these signs.
> (In the DELICIOUS video, you can finally get a peek at my face!)
>
> For SMOOTH:
> (This signs starts and ends with a closed middle finger and thumb
> position. These two fingers slide together using the hinge movement from
> the middle finger.)
> <SW SMOOTH 1.png>
>
> For DELICIOUS:
> (This is a composite sign. This is the SW spelling I could come up with.
> Do you have another SW spelling for this sign?)
>
> <Screen Shot 2022-02-21 at 11.23.56 AM.png>
>
> Chat with you soon,
>
> AnnaGrace
>
> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 5:33 PM Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yay, yay!
>>
>> ~ AnnaGrace
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 5:31 PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That is correct.
>>>
>>> <namesign.png>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at GMAIL.COM>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I understand Adam's recent message. And it makes sense to me.
>>> My application for that particular signwriting would be "to unfriend
>>> someone on Facebook." Am I right, Adam?
>>>
>>> ~ AnnaGrace
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 5:01 PM Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I doubt it is in SignPuddle. In fact, I wasn’t able to find it in a
>>>> search.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the spelling as if it were like fingerspelling RV, but with a
>>>> different palm facing.
>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-20 at 2.00.26 PM.png>
>>>>
>>>> This is how I was thinking of writing it with the scissor movement.
>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-02-20 at 2.00.56 PM.png>
>>>>
>>>> I can create a video if you would like me to. :-)
>>>>
>>>> <namesign.png>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> SignWriting List
>>>> February 20, 2022
>>>>
>>>> What is the name of the sign? Is it already in SignPuddle? Or can you
>>>> show us the sign?
>>>>
>>>> —
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 1:34 PM, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can’t think of an ASL sign that would start with an H-handshape that
>>>> then opens to a V-handshape. But there is one that starts with an
>>>> R-handshape and then opens to a V-handshape. Would that use the scissor
>>>> movement, or would that be something else?
>>>>
>>>> <namesign.png>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ——
>>>>
>>>> <Valerie_Signature_5.jpg>
>>>> Val ;-)
>>>>
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