[Sw-l] Dynamics and their meaning

Fri Jan 28 16:41:37 UTC 2022

SignWriting List
January 28, 2022

Hello SignWriting List, Uta, Steve, Adam, Stefan and everyone!

I would say these discussions are “dynamic” … (smile)

There are so many energetic messages and they are dynamic because they have feeling behind them ;-)

SignDict is a very nice web site showing videos of German signs - I enjoyed visiting it:

SignDict
https://signdict.org/

It is true that some of the Dynamics Symbols describe how a movement is performed, and other Dynamics Symbols are relating to Timing - which hand moves when?

So the symbols do act a little differently but all of them are used at times in dictionary entries as well as writing storytelling that has more feeling behind them. 

Some explanations and descriptions from me are coming!

Val ;-)

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> On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I think, Dynamics can be divided into 2 subgroups. 
> 
> That of a group includes all the properties that describe the movements.
> 
> I have to say, that I didn't occupy myself so much. I think, the reason is simple.
> 
> My team has written down some of the signs at signdict and there are hardly any signs that need these symbols. And signs like "fast" and "slow", this we sign with normal speed. 
> It is probably simply because we work with the lexicon and do not write texts. 
> 
> 
> The second subgroup contains symbols, which say, what the left hand does. 
> 
> Here, I have a problem with crossed ")" - > un even Alternation. 
> 
> I can only say that I do not know a single gesture that would belong to this category in the book by Stefan wöhrmann, there is an example: Leiter. But I say I behave them like a bicycle
> 
> I found the following examples at signpuddle. I can do something asl and I would say the new signs belong to the category "alternating lines". 
> 
> 
> . 
> 
> Maybe I didn't quite understand the definition. 
> 
> I miss a Symbol for 2-hand, that means, that left hand dont move. Now I think "~" does not fit. This characteristic is enormously important in order to be successful in the sign search. This Symbol can be only a small point. :)
> I also think that s helps to read the sign script faster. Like parallel, symmetric and alternatic symbols. 
> 
> 
> Greetings Uta
> 
> 
> 
> Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> schrieb am Do., 27. Jan. 2022, 18:43:
> SignWriting List
> January 27, 2022
> 
> Hi Uta and Steve, and everyone on the SignWriting List:
> 
> Thank you for bringing Dynamic Symbols into discussion. They are very important symbols. And Steve has described them so well that you probably don't even need more input but I could tell you a little bit about why the symbols were developed the way they are.
> 
> Plus there are many documents on the web created by writers discussing Dynamic Symbols. For example if you go to signwriting.org, on the front page, you will notice a search field. Put in the word “dynamics" and search signwriting.org and you will find a long listing of documents discussing the use of Dynamic Symbols.
> 
> For example here is a document by Natasha Escalada Westland. Thank you, Natasha!
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> https://www.signwriting.org/archive/symposium/sws0009_Lesson_11_SignWriting_in_Classrooms_2003-2014_Escalada_Westland.pdf
> 
> I will create a lesson on the Tension Symbol and post it soon. You may feel you already know it well, but actually the Tension Symbol is one of the most dynamc and versatile symols in SignWriting. And its versatility is what makes it so useful, for all movement writing...
> 
> Val ;-)
> 
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>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 6:00 AM, Stephen Slevinski <slevin at SIGNPUDDLE.NET> wrote:
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>> Hi Uta,
>> 
>> I'm making a new thread for this discussion and opening it up to the group.
>> 
>> Category 3 of the ISWA 2010 is the dynamics.
>> Here is the text used to describe this category.
>> 
>> 'Dynamics Symbols are used to give the "feeling" or "tempo" to movement. They provide emphasis on a movement or expression, and combined with Punctuation Symbols become the equivalent to Exclamation Points. The Tension Symbol, combined with Contact Symbols, provides the feeling of "pressure", and combined with facial expressions can place emphasis or added feeling to an expression. Timing symbols are used to show alternating or simultaneous movement.'
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The "Tense" symbol adds a feeling to the sign.
>> 
>> The whole sign would need to be considered to understand if the hand stops after movement, or if the hand is moved under tension, or if the hand doesn't move.
>> 
>> -Steve
>> 
>> On 1/26/22 11:51 PM, Uta Meißner wrote:
>>> To the sign ~
>>> 
>>> I know that ~ has several meanings:
>>> 
>>> - Hand stops after movement
>>> - Hand is moved under tension
>>> - Hand doesn't move
>>> 
>>> And I don't like 
>>> 
>>> I don't like this fact because it's important because of the sign search that each symbol has only one meaning. Therefore we decided to choose the 3rd meaning because that seems to us to be the most important. For 2-hand. There are 5 properties. One of them is a resting hand. Since the information is unimportant for own but right hand, we have agreed that symbol ~  property "resting recessive hand" to order. 
>>> 
>>> So, now you know my motivation for why we solved it this way. 
>>> My feeling tells me it's not a good way to make our own rules. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Therefore, take a step back:
>>> Why does a symbol have multiple meanings? What are the advantages? 
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> Uta
>>> 
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