[Sw-l] SignWriting Shorthand for Sign Language Stenography 1982

[Ms. AnnaGrace]

Hi All,

The way I see it, there's block lettering, handwriting, and shorthand.
Especially in the American English language.

In SignWriting, is shorthand the same as handwriting? Just wondering...

Thanks,
AnnaGrace

On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 3:50 PM Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <
suttikunep at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you so much for your help in finding the old documents. Fortunately,
> you can find the scanned files without having to re-scan them all over
> again. This appears to be a document containing a large ASL vocabulary as
> well as a shorthand for each word. That's amazing!
>
> It seems like the old shorthand is a lot different than what I expected,
> in that it has a number of systematic writing rules and principles
> to know. I'm not sure if anyone can still write this style of shorthand
> today, and I'm curious to see how fast it can be written.
>
> Shorthand, as many of you know, is a writing system that allows you to
> take notes at a speed that is comparable to speech. Shorthands for spoken
> languages are usually performed by listening to the voice and taking notes
> by hand, but it's interesting to know that the shorthand for sign languages
> is performed by looking at the signers with the eyes and taking notes by
> hand.
>
> Does this imply that sign language stenographers will take notes without
> glancing at the paper? I suppose that the shorthand of DanceWriting would
> follow the same way. I feel that writing at a fast pace without looking at
> the paper is quite challenging!
>
> Sutthikhun
>
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 01:19, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  Scribble Sample on Apple iPad.mov
>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nW4l8z1QwZ4j5dW2Wqje4W-fqQ_47vnH/view?usp=drive_web>
>> If Apple could come up with this method of converting handwritten
>> symbols (eg, the English alphabet and words), could we use this method for
>> SignWriting? Please see the attached video, and you'll see what I mean.
>> Could anyone on the SW List tell me if this is possible for SignWriting?
>> Thanks,
>> AnnaGrace
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 10:14 AM Jonathan Duncan <joyoduncan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Val,
>>>
>>>     How did you or others envision a typewriter for SignWriting
>>> Shorthand?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>> On 3/22/2022 12:09 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>>>
>>> SignWriting List
>>> March 22, 2022
>>>
>>> Hi SW List members -
>>> It took me time to find the scanned document, but I did find it and it
>>> is now posted. This is a very old book, based on our old writing system. It
>>> was a workbook for students learning SW Shorthand, so you will find blank
>>> pages in the middle of the document for students to practice writing.
>>>
>>> From an historic perspective, it is interesting to see how we were
>>> writing in 1982, but from a practical perspective, how we write today, in
>>> 2022, is what matters...
>>>
>>> In 1982, we were writing Receptively, and horizontally, with symbols
>>> that were not as detailed. By 1984, there was a major change in the system,
>>> which reflects how we write today…
>>>
>>> So here is 1982’s shorthand….
>>>
>>> "SignWriting Shorthand For Sign Language Stenography", 1982, is now
>>> posted as a PDF in our SignWriting Document Archives:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs13/sw1296_SignWriting_Shorthand_For_Sign_Language_Stenography_Sutton_1982.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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