[Sw-l] Question about wrist side-flex

Valerie Sutton 0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Wed Nov 16 20:06:48 UTC 2022 

SignWriting List,
November 16, 2022

Hello Anna Grace and of course Carlos!

I am so sorry Carlos that I didn't see this message. I'm having a little trouble keeping up with things but I'm doing OK. I want to thank you for this message. It was excellent and Anna Grace. I think it's terrific that you are using other programs and keep us informed because there's always something new coming. It's very hard to keep up with it all…

But it's also exciting that younger people like all of you are keeping up with it and making things better, so thank you to everybody for all your messages.

There is a new Lessons in SignWriting ebook 2022 that will be posted soon in “eBook land” - in several places on the web - that may help too - that is edited and produced by Richard Gleaves and Rich did some cool new diagrams about Planes - so those I can show you soon.

But mostly I want to establish a way for the Lessons in SignWriting that we are discussing right now, to become clealy available on video - so I will try a design my concept and ask your opinion…we can make this work.

Thanks again Carlos for your answer!

Val ;-)




> On Nov 16, 2022, at 5:32 AM, Carlos Cristian Libras <carloscristianlibras at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Hi AnnaGrace, Valerie and All friends,
> 
> 
> actually inside the signpuddle there is already an option to change the size of the sign without losing quality. When I wrote my first book "Genesis 1 Written in Libras" I didn't know about this course, when the book was already in the printing house that a friend (former student who is deaf) showed me and I felt like a fool for not knowing this course.
> 
> We know that the signpuddle system has many features and even those who know may sometimes have forgotten one.
> So I'll show below through photos how I do it.
> 

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> you can switch between the options there and already get the signs of the size you want and in the format.
> Now that I've learned it, it's become much more pleasurable to make material.
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> On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 10:06 AM Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Valerie,
> 
> The sign for "two of us" that you attached has the proper spelling, I believe. 
> This particular sign moves the wrist back and forth, that is, to front and back.
> 
> As for technology, I see online courses on Photoshop being offered at Udemy.com at lowered prices. They look good to me.
> Photoshop uses pixelization which can be problematic when an image is enlarged. It becomes "rasterized." 
> However, Adobe Illustrator uses a vector system which does not pixelate when enlarged and solves the rasterization problem. Udemy.com also offers courses in Adobe Illustrator. I have recently started to learn how to use Adobe Illustrator. 
> Files saved in Adobe Illustrator end with ".ai" file extension. (Photoshop has .psd file extension.)
> 
> Also, I've been using Mac's Keynote (it comes free with the MacBook) as a tool for SignWriting symbols. It's another way of writing SW besides the SignMaker.
> Keynote acts like a vector program. I have had a few problems with pixelation and rasterization in Keynote. 
> For the most part, I have been able to enlarge and reduce the image sizes without them becoming pixelated. 
> When I'm done creating SignWriting spelling, 
> I use the shift+command+4 to make screenshots of the images in Keynote to create png files. 
> With these png files, I am able to drag-and-drop them on emails, documents, etc.
> 
> Hope this helps! (For anyone else reading this email, hope this helps you, too!)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> AnnaGrace
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> On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 1:44 PM Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
> SignWriting List,
> November 2, 2022
> 
> Hello SignWriting List,
> and thank you Anna Grace and Adam and Hector for the questions and writings of wrist side-flex.
> 
> It is true that our current Lessons in SignWriting Textbook, which was published in 2014, only mentions Wrist Flexing, on numbered page 150, for forward and back and up and down. The side-flex was not shown in diagrams in 2014. This is one of the many reasons why I am bringing out a new version of the Lessons in SignWriting Textbook in 2023, to include these new trends in the writing system.
> 
> You will find, for example, in the old SignWriting Lessons books from Spain by Steve and Dianne Parkhurst, that in 2010 and earlier, we were placing a line for the arm, connected to the handshape, and that, along with arrows, would mean wrist movement. But that changed over time. Now the line for the arm has been moved to the Wrist-Flex symbol itself, and it is your palm facing, in the written sign, that indicates what direction the wrist flex goes - in the sign for CHEESE in ASL for example, the two hands remain contacting, while the Wrist Flex symbol shows the direction of the flex - the arrows show the movement of the hand in that direction without any other movement of the arm - it is solely the wrist. These are read well and it is more accurate than adding an arm line like the old days… but we need more instruction and examples in a more advanced book.
> 
> So here are some diagrams and I hope this helps - thank you for the videos, Anna Grace and Hector -
> 
> Please excuse my poor diagrams - I am not skilled at the new Photoshop and I obviously need to take some instruction on the new technology -
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