[Sw-l] SignTube Program for SW captions on videos

Valerie Sutton sutton at signwriting.org
Mon Aug 14 15:21:13 UTC 2023 

SignWriting List
August 14, 2023

Hi Uta -
Thanks for telling us about the new site:

sign4all
https://www.sign4all.de/

…and about using an app too…

I will link to sign4all on SignWriting.org <http://signwriting.org/> -

Val ;-)

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> On Aug 14, 2023, at 3:27 AM, Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 🙂
> Since last Week, there is a new website, similar to sign2MINT. Only with more fields. Not only MINT (STEM) (Math, physic, biology, computerscience)
> 
> www.sign4All.de
> 
> In the further, the entries from sign2mint will be merge in sign4All.
> 
> And I hope, the sign search will be improved. 
> 
> Actually we are working at the app, which saves suggestions of sign. 
> 
> Greetings Uta
> 
> Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> schrieb am Sa., 12. Aug. 2023, 21:43:
> SignWriting List
> August 12, 2023
> 
> Hi Uta, Jonathan, Amit and Steve -
> 
> Thank you for this message, Uta!
> 
> Your vision for the future is indeed an exciting one. For those on the SignWriting List who are new, Uta is working on a project sign2mint:
> 
> sign2mint
> https://sign2mint.de/
> 
> Here is a screen capture of one of the entries. Signs are shown on video with SignWriting...
> 
> 
> 
> and they are based on these base hand symbols from the ISWA SignWriting…
> 
> 
> 
> Your project looks great!
> 
> Val ;-)
> 
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> 
> 
> > On Aug 11, 2023, at 4:21 AM, Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > 
> > Oh, that sounds pretty darn great. I am totally excited. 
> > Transcribing everything in a video into sign language is a lot of work, but this is the first indispensable step to automation. 
> > 
> > I can imagine that in the future, for example, what is signed can be translated into other sign languages. Or more simply into the familiar dialect. In our German sign language there are about 15 signs for "green" ;) 
> > 
> > My dream is, because thanks to signwriting a text can be easily revised again and again, that in the near future the text with signwriting will be read out by a sign language avatar. :) 
> > 
> > Greetings Uta
> > 
> > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 7:21 PM Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
> > SignWriting List
> > August 10, 2023
> > 
> > Thank you, Jonathan, Amit and Steve…
> > 
> > This will be very useful for me and I look forward to trying the new features - to create captions on videos in SignTube using SWSignWriter app - and of course accessing SignPuddle 2 online and using it in SignMaker 2022 for the special dictionary I will create for specific vocabulary - this will be fun!
> > 
> > I am just finishing up some other projects, which I will announce in a day or so, and then I will focus solely on this project -
> > 
> > Thanks again!
> > 
> > Val ;-)
> > 
> > --------
> > 
> > > On Aug 10, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Jonathan Duncan <jonathandouglasduncan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ok, it's working now!!  You can export the subtitles of the translated text for SignTube.
> > > WEBVTT
> > > 
> > > 00:00.000 --> 00:00.500
> > > <c.Sgnw>𝠃𝤍𝤢񂇡𝤀𝤇񈗡𝣿𝣲񋵡𝤀𝣪</c>
> > > 
> > > 00:00.500 --> 00:01.000
> > > <c.Sgnw>𝠀񀠢񀠫񆉁𝠃𝤞𝤛񀠢𝤆𝤀񀠫𝣯𝤂񆉁𝣽𝣱</c>
> > > 
> > > 00:01.000 --> 00:01.500
> > > <c.Sgnw>𝠀񁲱񁲹񈟃񈟗񌄡񌏁񎥁𝠃𝤶𝥒񌏁𝣴𝣺񌄡𝣴𝣯񁲱𝤋𝤯񁲹𝣫𝤯񎥁𝣯𝤜񈟃𝤨𝤵񈟗𝣚𝤷</c>
> > > See attached
> > > 
> > > On 8/6/2023 8:29 AM, Amit Moryossef wrote:
> > >> Maybe this wasn't 100% clear -  
> > >> I mean that the first cue would be 0-0.5, the second one would be 0.5-1, the third 1-1.5 etc...
> > >> not that all should be 0-0.5
> > >> 
> > >> Thanks!
> > >> 
> > >> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 4:27 PM Amit Moryossef <amitmoryossef at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Hi Jonathan, thanks for sharing.
> > >> At the moment, signTube does not support 0-sized captions (and neither do lots of other players). 
> > >> Could you make it the default that every caption cue takes 0.5 seconds for example? 
> > >> 
> > >> Amit
> > >> 
> > >> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 4:24 PM Jonathan Duncan <jonathandouglasduncan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> Hi Amit,
> > >>     I've made some changes to SWSignwriter so that we can export a .vtt file from it to be used in SignTube.  See attached.
> > >> Let me know if you can import it easily into SignTube or if I need to make any tweaks.  Thanks
> > >> Jonathan
> > >> On 5/29/2023 8:12 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
> > >>> SignWriting List 
> > >>> May 29, 2023
> > >>> 
> > >>> Hello Amit -
> > >>> As you can see by the messages received, we love this work and would be so grateful for a tutorial so we can manually do this until you have it automated. THANK YOU for envisioning the project, and working on it... If this could be automated someday, it will be a major accomplishment, and what you have done already already is!
> > >>> 
> > >>> Our gratitude, Amit -
> > >>> 
> > >>> Val ;-)
> > >>> 
> > >>> ____________
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>>> On May 26, 2023, at 4:53 AM, Amit Moryossef <amitmoryossef at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Some of you might already be familiar with this video by Adam Frost.
> > >>>> I saw the transcription on SignPuddle, so I decided to align the video with the SignWriting transcription.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Video with transcription: 
> > >>>> https://youtu.be/Fr4R5Rs14AM
> > >>>> (The video quality is poor since the original video's quality is poor.)
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> To those unfamiliar with my work, I attempt to automate this process - for every video, I would like to automatically generate SignWriting, and translate it into a spoken language. This video was manual, and the dream is to completely automate this process.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Original content:
> > >>>> Why SignWriting (part 1)
> > >>>> Why SignWriting (part 2)
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Modifications:
> > >>>> There's a sign for "system" missing in the original transcription. I added it.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Thanks to Adam for recording this video, and to Steve for teaching me how to convert old SignWriting formats (BSW3) to FSW.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Additional information: 
> > >>>> The interface is my own. If there would be interest from people to manually transcribe videos, and show the SignWriting on screen, I could make a tutorial.
> > >>>> I attached the VTT captions file if anyone is interested in it.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> ________________________________________________ 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION 
> > >>>> Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator sutton at signwriting.org Post Messages to the SignWriting List: sw-l at listserv.valenciacollege.edu SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1
> > >>> ________________________________________________ 
> > >>> 
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> > >>> 
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> > >>> 
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