[Sw-l] png files of all symbols?

Mon Aug 4 01:09:14 UTC 2025

Hi Steve,

I'm still working on a project using the SVG files of ISWA 2010 symbols.

I need to download the file again. I just tried the link you provided on
November 3, 2023, but it seems to have been removed since.

Could you, if possible, please re-release the zip archive with all of the
ISWA 2010 symbols in SVG format in the https://github.com/sutton-signwriting
/font-db/releases?

Thanks kindly for your time and assistance.

With warm regards,
AnnaGrace

On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 10:12 AM Steve Slevinski <slevin at signpuddle.net>
wrote:

> Hi AnnaGrace,
>
> I have created a zip archive with all of the ISWA 2010 symbols in SVG
> format.  You can download it here:
> https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db/releases
>
> Download the file called iswa_2010_svg.zip
>
> Regards,
> -Steve
>
> On 11/3/23 7:16 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace wrote:
>
> Hi Steve, Wallyson, João, and all --
>
> Could you (or anyone else) give me step-by-step guidance on how to
> download *svg* files to my laptop from the link provided in an
> earlier email? Or is there another source of *svg* files of symbols that
> I can download to my laptop?
>
> I can select the symbols among the *svg* files and upload them to Canva
> myself. I need them as soon as possible.
>
> I don't expect to upload a boatload of symbols onto Canva (www.canva.com
> ).
> Probably 100 symbols at most, because that's what I need for this month.
>
> Many thanks,
> AnnaGrace
> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-03 at 8.13.03 AM.png]www.canva.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 12:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <wallysonruan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I realized they'd be images. It makes everything easier if you
>> think about it. The first benefit is being able to get the signs into any
>> tool using a built-in support for images, instead of the whole ordeal of
>> adding a new font and hoping for some compatibility.
>>
>> -
>>
>> FSW stands for "Formal Sign Writing", you can think of it as a set of
>> coordinates or a blueprint to create a sign.
>>
>> With a FSW string you can recreate a sign container, the symbols and
>> place them in the right plane, side and "z-index".
>>
>> All signs have a FSW. I've attached an image to this email, it's a
>> screenshot from a Libras sign I just researched in signpuddle2. As you can
>> see, it has a quite big FSW.
>>
>> You can find more information on it in this documentation written by
>> Steve:
>> https://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-01.html#rfc.section.3
>>
>> Em qua., 1 de nov. de 2023 23:11, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Hi Mr. Ruon and all --
>>>
>>> Also, would I be correct that the symbols would have to be uploaded as*
>>> images* and *not as a font*?
>>> Just making sure we all are on the same wavelength.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> AnnaGrace
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 10:06 PM Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Mr. Ruon,
>>>>
>>>> You made an excellent point about Canva's capability to mirror (flip)
>>>> and rotate the images so that not as many symbols need to be uploaded
>>>> to Canva. (www.canva.com)
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate your help!
>>>>
>>>> By the way, what's FSW/code? I'm learning along the way!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much,
>>>> AnnaGrace
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 8:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <wallysonruan at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey, Steve and Anna!
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the topic is to upload images to Canva.com, I'm assuming they'd
>>>>> be treated as such, without any intention of keeping track of their
>>>>> FSW/code.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that's the case, I believe that the amount of images reduces
>>>>> drastically.
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of 16 symbols for each hand, it could be only one symbol per
>>>>> hand. Image editors allow the users to rotate them, which defeats the
>>>>> purpose of the 15 extra symbols.
>>>>>
>>>>> That being said, I guess it'd be a lot easier to categorize the signs
>>>>> using human readable names.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I'm not wrong, I saw a table dedicated to English names for each
>>>>> symbol in the sqlite db available in the repository I mentioned earlier.
>>>>> Wouldn't using them with slightly differences make the work easier?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, it'd take some time to get there. But, once that's out of the
>>>>> way, I believe many artworks will show up due to how easy and fast it would
>>>>> be to put together a lot of signs in both orthodox and unorthodox ways.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't promise anything, but I'll take a look at Canva.com to see
>>>>> what are its uploading capabilities. Maybe they already have a way for us
>>>>> to upload many at the same time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Em qua., 1 de nov. de 2023 18:26, Ms. AnnaGrace <
>>>>> msannagrace20 at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are right - SVG files are preferable over PNG files for the
>>>>>> quality. I believe Canva.com accepts SVG files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please direct me to where I could obtain SVG files from
>>>>>> https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To make the volume of symbols more manageable, I could accept the
>>>>>> symbols used in American Sign Language (ASL). If these ASL symbols could
>>>>>> somehow be categorized into a group or one folder, it would help me
>>>>>> tremendously in uploading them onto Canva.com. Would that be possible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks so much,
>>>>>> AnnaGrace
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 2:24 PM Steve Slevinski <slevin at signpuddle.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi AnnaGrace,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keep me posted if you find what you need.  I believe all of the PNG
>>>>>>> images available are of a lower quality that the SVG refinement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db I could write a
>>>>>>> script to dump all of the symbols into PNG images.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For each symbol the command would be:
>>>>>>> node fsw/fsw-symbol-png S10000 S10000.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Be aware though, there are 37,811 symbol in the ISWA 2010.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/1/23 9:26 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Signwriting List --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use Canva platform to produce anything graphics. If you haven't
>>>>>>> done so, I encourage you to take a look at canva.com! You can
>>>>>>> create visual posters, worksheets, flyers, brochures, eBooks, and more!
>>>>>>> Anyone can upload any image to use on Canva. There's a free version which
>>>>>>> offers plenty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to use Canva to create signwriting documents. I need to
>>>>>>> upload signwriting symbols to make this possible. That means I would need
>>>>>>> to upload hundreds of symbols in png files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My question to you on the SignWriting List is, do you happen to have
>>>>>>> a zip folder of png files of individual signwriting symbols that you can
>>>>>>> pass on to me?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This would save me many, many hours of work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I can teach you how to utilize Canva for signwriting!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With warm regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AnnaGrace Greenfield
>>>>>>> A Fan of SignWriting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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