Hindi and Gujarati discontinuous NPs
Thomas Wiederhold
th.wiederhold at GOOGLEMAIL.COM
Mon Apr 28 09:56:39 UTC 2008
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@Bob: Thanks for your Kangri teaser. I'm looking forward to read something
more about this construction, it might have some similarities to the Hindi
and Gujarati sentences I presented in my first post, probably mainly in it
its pragmatics. Syntactically they seem to differ in that in your Kangri
sentences it's a full phrase that is moved, while in the Hindi and
Gujarati sentences it's only part of a phrase (if one wants to analyze it
in terms of movement).
Also thanks for asking your language consultant. Did she also have
problems with the first and third sentence from my initial post, or only
with the second sentence? I'm, as you can already guess, mainly interested
if there was any difference in her judgement between the second and the
third sentence.
@Saartje: Thanks for asking about the translation. The main purpose of the
translation was not to give an adequate information structural account of
the Hindi sentence, but to show the scope of "bahut saari" clearly. The
interpretation as an afterthought seems to be possible indeed. But I was
told by our informant that "As for books, he bought many (ones)." would
also be a possible interpretation. The problem in analyzing all these
sentences as afterthoughts is - in my opinion - twofold: First "bahut
saari" (or other modifiers) can be in a preverbal position as well, while
the head noun is topicalized. Thus
kitaabeN paresh-ne bahut saari paRhii thiiN
book-pl Paresh-erg many good read-pst be-pres
is also possible. It seems kind of hard to me to interpret it as an
afterthought here. The other difficulty I see, is that within the
afterthought analysis it's hard to explain why all speakers agree in the
ungrammaticality of sentence two (and some also find sentence three as
bad), while at the same time accepting the first sentence.
@Lakhan: As you seem to be a Hindi native speaker, could you share your
intuitions about the second and third sentence in my initial post?
@everybody: Thanks a lot for the discussion. Also some people sent me
their opinions on the Hindi sentences directly - thanks as well.
Unfortunately I got no judgements for the Gujarati sentences yet - any
Gujarati speakers out there?
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Thomas Wiederhold
DFG-Project FA 255/5 (=Morphosyntax and Phonology of split NPs and PPs)
Linguistics Department
Potsdam University
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