FW: the city so nice they named it twice

Frank Abate abatefr at EARTHLINK.NET
Mon Jul 22 14:30:38 UTC 2002

RE what Ron B says (copied below), "New York City" is an alternate form used
to distinguish the city from the state.  Officially, the name of the city is
"New York", as used by the US Postal Service and by the FIPS-55-DC3 file,
the latter of which is the placename file for the US that is official in the
eyes of the federal government.

New York, the city, includes all 5 boroughs.  The borough of Manhattan is
coterminous with the county of New York.  (Each of the 5 boroughs is
coterminous with its county.)

If you are speaking of the area that is the borough of Manhattan, it can be
said that it is named THREE times -- the city, the county, and the state,
each "New York".  I believe this to be the only such place in the US.

Frank Abate


In a message dated 7/21/2002 7:56:49 PM, mam at THEWORLD.COM writes:

<< Heh. That's "named twice", but not "two names, twice". *Is* there any
other city than New York, New York that can be so described? >>

Well, one could certainly argue that "New York City, New York," was not
twice, just that there is a repetition of the city name and the state name
compounded by an optional deletion. Walla Walla, on the other hand, was
actually named "twice."

So "New York City, New York" is really no different from "Iowa City, Iowa."
(Except that people don't talk funny in Iowa City.)

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