rhyming odds and ends
flanigan at OHIOU.EDU
Sun Nov 17 00:18:30 UTC 2002
I think Jim meant that 'monkey' and 'honky' are "politically
incorrect." But why would either 'monkey' or 'donkey' be considered un-PC?
At 08:02 AM 11/15/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>This ("honky") is again different for me. I say and am sure I have always
>"donkey" /'dawnk ee/
>"monkey" /'muhn kee/
>"honky" /'hawnk ee/
>and you pronounce "honky" as /'huhn kee'/ which is "hunky" to me. So you
>pronounce "honky" and "hunky" the same way? And I also find it *very*
>interesting that the politically incorrect words rhyme. I wonder how
>widespread the pronunciation is so that this rhyming is the case. You
>would think this would have been picked up on for a sociolinguistic study
>(oooh, a new research project :) ).
>At 10:32 AM 11/15/02 -0500, James A. Landau wrote:
>>In a message dated 11/15/02 10:11:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>>laurence.horn at YALE.EDU writes:
>> > >This is interesting, I have *never* heard donkey rhyme with monkey!
>> > Meanwhile, back on the East Coast, I rhyme them with impunity. But
>> > "honky" rhymes with neither, so it's a matter of lexical diffusion
>> > rather than purely a phonological matter. (The adjective "wonky"
>> > rhymes with "honky", but then unlike the others it has an internal
>> > morpheme boundary.)
>>I rhyme "donkey" with "monkey", i.e. /'duhn kee/, but I find /'dawnk ee/ or
>>/'dahnk ee/ acceptable. (And yes I do hear the /k/ move across the syllable
>>boundary, though I do not have the knowledge of phonetics to say why this
>>However, in my experience "honky" meaning "whte, usually disparaging" also
>>rhymes with "monkey". Yes, the two politically incorrect words rhyme. I
>>can't recall ever haing heard /'hawnk ee/ or /'hahnk ee/ in this sense. Yes,
>> /'hawnk ee 'tawnk/, but here this is probably to make the first and last
>>Raised in Louisville KY, college in Michigan, than living in DC and South
>>Jersey for 33 years.
>> - Jim Landau
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