"at" at the end of a where phrase

[Beverly Flanigan]

I couldn't (and didn't) say it better myself, Patti!  Ah, a new breed of
English teachers, and coming out of my beloved Northland!

At 11:42 AM 12/7/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>write at SCN.ORG wrote:
>
>>I teach 8th grade.  This thread makes me feel as if I should never correct
>>my students writing.
>Okay, I'm not a linguist per se, but an English prof, but my feelings
>are that a9 it's okay to show students what's expected in "Standard
>written English" as long as we don't disparage their own dialects in the
>process.  Students can learn to style shift very readily-- the problem,
>I think, that Dennis and the others are focusing on is the view that one
>dialect (the mythical standard) is somehow "better" than the others.
>Plus speech and writing are very different-- we speak (as a rule) much
>more informally than we write.  And a lot of writing has to do with
>audience.  What are the students writing to who? (or should that be
>whom?)  Anyhow, I think as a teacher, it's important to teach the
>conventions of written standard English, but to do so in a  way that
>doesn't make students ashamed of the way they talk.  Students should
>also realize that there may be a time or place in writing for dialect
>and casual usage-- such as e mails, letters to friends, fiction, etc.
>The key I think is in not labeling variants as "bad English" but as
>variants which may not be accepted by the academic community.
>
>Okay, that's  my 2 cents.
>
>Patti Kurtz
>English Department
>Minot State University
>Minot, ND
>
>>No doubt, I will think something is wrong that
>>really isn't, or is so common that I should just ignore it.  Where is
>>there help for teachers who were never trained about language themselves?
>>Jan
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>If  you write nothing, nothing is what you end up with!
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>Joseph Bruchac