further antedating of "screw ball" 1919

Jim Parish jparish at SIUE.EDU
Sun Feb 22 03:31:29 UTC 2004

Sam Clements wrote:
> As a side note, I wonder if Carl wasn't what was called in modern terms =
> a "submarine" pitcher?  Did he "really" pitch underhand?  I doubt it.

Bill James' _Historical Baseball Abstract_ says of Carl Mays: "Threw
underhand, real hard." This isn't decisive, but James is a Kansas City
fan, very fond of Dan Quisenberry, who was a submariner; I would
expect him to be precise on this matter.

Jim Parish

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