'sup?

[Wilson Gray]

On Oct 20, 2004, at 3:45 PM, Beverly Flanigan wrote:

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> Yes, I wondered about that.  Surely it isn't everywhere in AAVE?
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> At 08:02 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote:
>> Let's lay off /hw/ as AAVE unless we add some regional provisos.
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>> dInIs

What are the regions that have lost [hw], dInIs? And what are the age
groups?

-Wilson

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>>> On Oct 19, 2004, at 5:22 PM, Beverly Flanigan wrote:
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>>>> At 05:02 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2004, at 3:43 PM, William Stone wrote:
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>>>>>> In the northwest suburbs of Chicago, 'sup' is very much a
>>>>>> Caucasian
>>>>>> teen greeting.  African-American teens all seem to use a flapped
>>>>>> 'whatup'
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>>>>> FWIW, on an episode of Law & Order, a black adult refers to a
>>>>> group of
>>>>> black teenagers as a group of "[hw^D^ps]," where "D" is the SPE
>>>>> symbol
>>>>> for flapped "t." Law & Order is set in the City, but who knows
>>>>> where
>>>>> the writers get their BE slang from from?
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>>>>> -Wilson Gray
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>>>> With [hw] or my plain-vanilla [w]?  What city is L&O set in?
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>>> With [hw], which is typical of BE. And the City is THE City. New York
>>> City. I personally don't care much for the place, but I gotta give it
>>> its props.
>>>
>>> -Wilson Gray
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