The Last "Mohican"?

Peter A. McGraw pmcgraw at LINFIELD.EDU
Wed Aug 10 18:22:14 UTC 2005

No.  Quite a few years ago I started what turned out to be a long but
inconclusive thread on this list with a query about my son's
then-girlfriend having laughed at him when he said [straip at d].  The fact
that someone of his age (early 30s) was using it seemed to indicate that it
wasn't necessarily a generational thing.  But maybe HE is the "last

Peter McGraw

--On Tuesday, August 09, 2005 2:44 PM -0700 Jonathan Lighter
<wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Yes.
> JL
> Wilson Gray <wilson.gray at RCN.COM> wrote:
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> Poster: Wilson Gray
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> Am I the last person to maintain the distinction between "perfect
> passive participles" and adjectives derived therefrom? For example,
> I've heard tigers, zebras, crosswalks, and streets with painted
> lane-separations, etc., etc. all described as [straipt]. I make the
> following distinction: if an object has had stripes added to it, then
> it's [straipt]; if an object naturally has stripes, either of genetic
> origin or added as part of the manufacturing process, then it's
> [straipId]. Hence, roadways that have had crosswalks lane-separations,
> bike lanes, or other such-like stripings added to them are [straipt].
> But zebras, tigers, the shirts of athletic officials, etc. are
> [straipId].
> I also distinguish between "loved [l^vd] by" and "beloved [bIl^vId] of"
> and a few others, like "alleged."
> -Wilson
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Peter A. McGraw       Linfield College        McMinnville, Oregon
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