Thanks. Same as OED2 CD-ROM, so possibly they haven't reached it yet. (I have 1736.) Joel At 10/13/2005 01:44 PM, Bill Mullins wrote: >red man >2. a. [See RED a. 5c.] A (or the) North American Indian. > >1744 VAUDREUIL in Pres. State Louisiana 37 The English..aimed at nothing >so much as the Destruction of the red Men.