Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Tue Apr 22 01:30:12 UTC 2008

Why don't you take some classes and let us know what your teacher says.  Remember, trust what your teacher says, not what you hear or think.

And do you agree with MAM that all long vowels in American English are two-phthonged?  Why don't you give us your own voice files as I have done here with qlippits to demonstrate.  Or take a class and find out how.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
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> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:33:10 -0700
> From: blukoff at ALVORD.COM
> Subject: Re: Rosa/rowz@
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> Sender: American Dialect Society
> Poster: Benjamin Lukoff
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> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>> I don't believe off-glides are part of diphthongs such as
>> for the long vowels. Off glides happen before some consonants and not
>> before others. To me all long vowels sound like one-phthong not two.
>> I'd be glad to hear words spoken in that illustrate the
>> difference.
> Where are you located? Perhaps a phonetics class at your local university
> would help.
> I also remember some IPA training software from the 90s which would
> pronounce each sound alone and in context.
> Basically, the key is ear training.
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