ghoti = fish

David Borowitz borowitz at STANFORD.EDU
Tue Apr 22 22:26:02 UTC 2008

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Matthew Gordon <gordonmj at>

> ti is sh, as in mention, attention, &c.

A bit off-topic, but the 'ti' in both of those is pretty clearly [tS] for me
and not [S]. Wikipedia gives 'ti' as in 'nation', which is better for me. My
question is, do we think 'mention' with [S] might be a mistake on the part
of the author, or was that a valid BE pronunciation 100-150 years ago? (Or
is it a valid BE pronunciation today?)

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