anise

[David A. Daniel]

Thing about names and pronunciations, when naming, you must also consider
the short form. For example, if your last name is Hunt you daren't call your
kid Michael, lest he be known as Mike.
DAD


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From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
Laurence Horn
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:57 PM
To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: anise

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At 1:56 PM -0400 8/19/08, Charles Doyle wrote:
>My advice: Don't risk naming a child "Pennice."
>
>--Charlie

*Now* you tell me.  It's ok, though, we just call him Dick.

LH

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>---- Original message ----
>>Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:19:39 -0400
>>From: Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>>Subject: Re: anise
>>>
>>At 12:53 PM -0400 8/19/08, Lynne Murphy wrote:
>>>Maybe we should interpret 'standard' in a non-technical way in my
>>>claim below, but I've only heard it as "a NIECE" in the
>>>southeastern BrE that I hear, and have been mocked (a little) for
>>>saying something that sounds more like "anus".
>>>
>>>Lynne
>>
>>Is the pronunciation of "anus" different there too?  For me, it's
>>only ['eyn at s], which doesn't sound enough like ['aen at s] to motivate
>>even light mockery; it would be like teasing someone for being
>>named >"Pennice".
>>
>>LH
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--On Monday, August 18, 2008 7:42 am -0400 Charles Doyle <cdoyle at UGA.EDU>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>The OED records only the one pronunciation--with the first syllable
>>>>stressed!
>>>>
>>>>--Charlie
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>>>>
>>>>---- Original message ----
>>>>>Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:57:48 -0400
>>>>>From: Lynne Murphy <m.l.murphy at SUSSEX.AC.UK>
>>>>>Subject: Re: anise
>>>>>
>>>>>She's using the standard British pronunciation, but 'aniseed' is
>>>>>pronounced the same as in AmE.
>>>>>
>>>>>Similarly the Frenchified pronunciation of 'endive' is the usual BrE
>>>>>pronunciation (when they're not calling it 'chicory').
>>>>>
>>>>>Lynne
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--On Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:06 am -0400 Charles Doyle
>>>>><cdoyle at UGA.EDU> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>A couple of days ago on the Food Network, Rachael Ray, more than once,
>>>>>>pronounced "anise" as [@ 'nis], a pronunciation registered in none of
>>>>>>the several English dictionaries at hand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At first I supposed it was just a pretentious faux-French affection,
as
>>>>>>I used to assume "endive" as ['an div] is--though that one is in the
>>>>>>dictionaries, and it does mimic the actual French pronunciation.  But
>>>>>>maybe [@ 'nis] exemplifies the "Uranus" ['jUr @ n at s] syndrome--an
>>>>>>attempt to keep low-minded liteners from thinking about anuses?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--Charlie
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>>>>>
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>>>>>Senior Lecturer in Linguistics and English Language
>>>>>Arts B135
>>>>>University of Sussex
>>>>>Brighton BN1 9QN
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