I'd've

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Tue Aug 4 13:38:18 UTC 2009


Since "I'd've" and "I'd'a", which is also my usage, is primarily a
feature of spoken English and spoken English represents only ten
percent of the BNC, comparing its frequency to that of "abided," which
is more common in written English, may not give useful results.

Herb

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Tom Zurinskas<truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks for that.  If I'd've knownn I could've been counting google hits, I'd've done it a long time ago.  Actually I'm an EYE-duh sayer myself.
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> I wouldn't say "I'd've" is widely used though.  It's rarer than "abided" which has 6 hits out of a database of 100M words in the British national corpus.
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> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
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>> At 8:06 AM +0000 8/3/09, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>>>What's a "raw g-hit"?
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>> Google hits, the number reported by google in the upper right corner,
>> without inspection for overlaps and repetitions.
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>>>How does one evaluate it? Is 137,000 raw g-hits a lot?
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>> It's significantly more than zero. Hits on the first several pages
>> all seem genuine, and distinct. This indicates that the contraction
>> is question is widely used, especially since each search is conducted
>> on a separate variant.
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>>>One of the lowest frequency words in the British National Corpus of
>>>100M hits is "abided" with only 6 hits according to
>>>ftp://ftp.itri.bton.ac.uk/bnc/all.num.o5 How many raw g-hits does
>>>"abided" get?
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>> 435,000. You can discover this on your own by clicking on
>> "www.google.com" and putting in [abided], without the brackets.
>>
>> LH
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>>>Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>>>see truespel.com
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>>>> At 2:35 AM +0000 7/31/09, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>>>>>See "I'd've" below. I haven't seen a double apostrophe before.
>>>>
>>>> Sheltered life! I've seen many, in particular involving variants of
>>>> this one ("she'd've", "they'd've", etc.). There are 137,000 raw
>>>> g-hits for "I'd've".
>>>>
>>>> LH
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have taught a lot of subjects and activities over the years and in
>>>>>each case had a level of expertise higher than my students. I knew
>>>>>the subject or sport, was more experienced in it, was able to model
>>>>>and participate on a level higher than the students. I'd be able to
>>>>>win a game (Well, I'd've won a few years back. Now I get awfully
>>>>>tired.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>>>>>see truespel.com
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