"endorse" as medicalese for '(patient) report (symptom)'

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Fri Feb 13 21:58:21 UTC 2009


Gee whiz, people.  What a sidetrack!  "Present" vs. "present with"
was not my point.  My question was whether "present" in some language
for some (medical) person for whom E is a SL might be the source of
":endorse", rather than "report".

Joel

At 2/13/2009 01:21 PM, Mark Mandel wrote:
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>On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Arnold Zwicky <zwicky at stanford.edu> wrote:
> >
> > i wasn't aware of this use of "present" until this moment; "present
> > with" is what i'm used to hearing in medical jargon.  but now i see
> > that the OED has both uses in medical contexts: intransitive
> > "present", both of symptoms/conditions and of patients, transitive
> > "present with" of patients.
>
>Egad, so it does!
>
>Slight correction:
>  * intrans. CASE/SYMPTOM presents, PATIENT presents with SYMPTOM
>  * trans. PATIENT presents SYMPTOM
>
>Defs & recent quotes:
>
>  11. a. intr. Of a condition, symptom, physical sign, etc.: to show
>itself, to appear, to be manifest, to occur, esp. in a certain manner,
>position, etc. Of a patient: to come to medical attention, esp. with a
>particular symptom, etc.
>
>1972 Nature 8 Sept. 102/2 These complications may present as
>hypersensitivity reactions.
>
>1993 Brit. Jrnl. Surg. 80 18/1 Patients who have appendicitis and a
>mass tend to have a longer duration of symptoms and present to medical
>attention after 5-7 days.
>
>2003 E. J. CASSELL Doctoring i. 36 People with multiple sclerosis do
>not arrive with a sign on their chest that says 'multiple sclerosis'.
>Instead, they usually present with vague discomforts.
>
>     b. trans. Of a patient: to manifest or exhibit (a symptom or
> physical sign).
>
>1989 Brain 112 1029 All 3 patients presented abnormal neurological
>findings such as mild cortico-spinal signs in the lower limbs.
>
>
>
>I note in passing that one of the early quotes under 11.a.(intr.) is
>actually reflexive, fitting into the primary sense of the word:  1.
>trans. a. To bring or place (a person) before or into the presence of;
>to bring to the notice of another; ...
>
>1880 L. OWEN tr. F. Giraud-Teulon Elem. Treat. Function of Vision II.
>ii. 30 The presbyope presents himself generally under the following
>aspect: he has always enjoyed excellent distant vision [etc.].]
>
>m a m
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