vivacious

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Fri Jul 10 02:25:04 UTC 2009


In the late '70s I was told that "vivacious" was sexist and should not be
used.

JL

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Me, too. I'm not sure sure what vivacity in the personality of a man
> would look like.
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> -Wilson
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> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Jesse Sheidlower<jester at panix.com> wrote:
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> > On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 08:50:25AM -0700, Arnold Zwicky wrote:
> >> NYT Magazine, 7/5/09, Mark Leibovitch, "On the Coast of Crazy" (about
> >> Gavin Newsom), p. 29:
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> >> Â  He is vivacious and something of a political thrill-seeker ...
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> >> my eye was caught by "vivacious", which sounded a bit odd to me used
> >> of a man. Â NOAD2 says:
> >> Â  (esp. of a woman) attractively lively and animated
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> >> (AHD4 and the OED have no note.)
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> >> raw google webhits have "she is vivacious" slightly ahead of "he is
> >> vivacious", but only slightly. Â and the relevant OED cites are pretty
> >> well balanced. Â so i'm not sure why i (and NOAD2) associate
> >> "vivacious" with women more than men.
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> > FWIW, I share this association.
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> > Jesse Sheidlower
> > OED
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