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Fri Jul 10 06:54:51 UTC 2009

Well, like, uhm, why wouldn't  vivacity (vivaciousness?) In the personality of a man  look" exactly like vivacity in the personality of a woman? It is not a sex-related physical characteristic (cf. "busty").
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From: Wilson Gray
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Me, too. I'm not sure sure what vivacity in the personality of a man
would look like.


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Jesse Sheidlower<jester at> wrote:
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> On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 08:50:25AM -0700, Arnold Zwicky wrote:
>> NYT Magazine, 7/5/09, Mark Leibovitch, "On the Coast of Crazy" (about
>> Gavin Newsom), p. 29:
>>  He is vivacious and something of a political thrill-seeker ...
>> my eye was caught by "vivacious", which sounded a bit odd to me used
>> of a man. NOAD2 says:
>>  (esp. of a woman) attractively lively and animated
>> (AHD4 and the OED have no note.)
>> raw google webhits have "she is vivacious" slightly ahead of "he is
>> vivacious", but only slightly. and the relevant OED cites are pretty
>> well balanced. so i'm not sure why i (and NOAD2) associate
>> "vivacious" with women more than men.
> FWIW, I share this association.
> Jesse Sheidlower
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