RI cabinet was: Re: non-coda r-loss

Amy West medievalist at W-STS.COM
Mon Jun 22 13:06:22 UTC 2009

It's more a function of geography than anything else, Wilson. I grew
up in Buffalo, NY, with a mother who was from Belmont, MA. I learned
early on about "frappe"  because of her resistance to the term

I was in Herrell's in Cambridge last week and was surprised to see
that they did *not* have "frappe" listed but rather had "milkshake."
Where you encounter it really does vary, and some people maintain a
"frappe"/"milkshake" distinction and some don't. "Frappe" is
disappearing from menus and use.

---Amy West
Worcester, MA

>Date:    Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:31:24 -0400
>From:    Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
>Subject: Re: RI cabinet was: Re: non-coda r-loss
>There's a local term for "ice cream soda" or "milkshake"? I didn't know that!
>[Here, Wilson plays the race card]
>Probably because, when I was "coming up," as is said in BE and,
>possibly, in SE in general, colored weren't allowed access to foods as
>these. Of course, had we known exactly what they were, we could have
>made them ourselves, at home, i suppose. But they're only literary
>terms for me.
>Needless to say, I could easily get either or both of these anywhere
>in the greater Boston area. But now, I don't care.
>OTOH, I *love* barbecued "snoots" (i.e. swine snouts), but they're
>difficult to come by, in these parts, since such offal is generally
>not regarded as a foodstuff, except when inside of a hot dog.

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