antedating "hobo" 1885

Randy Alexander strangeguitars at GMAIL.COM
Tue May 26 14:03:22 UTC 2009

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at> wrote:

> I can't figure out your spreadsheet.  What has it got to do with the "o?o"
> tradstreeng?  What is it good for?

It's good for seeing what other words might follow that pattern.  I can
filter it by specifying more specific patterns than "o?o", like making sure
that ? is a consonant letter, and that a consonant precedes the first o.  I
can also filter out words that are more than two syllables, and that are not
accented on the first syllable.

> I looked at the Carnegie Mellon word list and phonetics.

Their pronunciations are not phonetic, but rather phonemic.

> Not useful for simple English phonetics as I've done.  It uses schwa, so
> it's not as accurate as truespel.
> Has anyone used IPA in spreadsheets?

I have.

Randy Alexander
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