DOTI (downgrading of text initialisms)
gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM
Sun Nov 28 18:36:05 UTC 2010
I rarely chat or use these initialisms, so I'm probably behind the times. I think I understood this downgrade a year or two.
You say it's old. I looked in the archives for mention of this downgrade and did not find anything. Do you have an approximate date for when it started?
On Nov 28, 2010, at 4:01 AM, Victor Steinbok wrote:
> I'm a bit puzzled by this presentation. Although I would not dispute the
> general "downgrading", in principle, all of the information below would
> be "new" if we were somehow stuck in 1998, Groundhog Day style. I still
> have my email archives from the late 1990s that include all the
> initialism listed below and more. LOL is indeed the lowest (even though
> one friend still insists on using "<grin>" for being smug about one's
> own attempt at humor--not so much funny/not funny). This is followed by
> both ROFL and LMAO--perhaps ordered, perhaps not--and further by ROFLMAO
> that folds the two together. Some use an enhanced version that reads
> ROFLMAO-RVVF. I am not entirely sure why this is the top of the comic
> food chain, but RVVF means "running very very fast". The entire LOL
> scale was introduced to me--a chat novice, at the time--in 1997. There
> has indeed been a LOL scale inflation, with each rung being less funny
> now than it used to be, but, as I said, none of this is new. The only
> change, as far as I can tell, is that we no longer use brackets to
> highlight the initialism--largely because both LOL and ROFLMAO have
> become so ubiquitous. (Note that <g>--which means either grin or
> giggle--and <grin> still get the bracket treatment. There is also <@>.)
> On 11/27/2010 1:57 PM, Benjamin Barrett wrote:
>> I have had the impression lately that text abbreviations have been downgraded.
>> I recall Mark Aronoff's paper "Automobile Semantics" where he discusses a chain downgrading of automobile names. The automakers would introduce a new, more prestigious and more expensive automobile to their lineup, while lowering the price of their other cars. People would buy the lowered-price car, happy of the prestige it carried, though not necessarily aware that the prestige was in free-fall.
>> Thursday, I confirmed with a teenager and a fifty-something tech guy that LOL indeed means "not funny."
>> It seems a change something like the following has happened:
>> <g> (grin/mildly funny) -> eliminated
>> <LOL> (laugh out loud/funny) -> the new<g> and/or not funny
>> <LMAO> (laughing my ass off) -> the new<LOL> = funny
>> <ROFLMAO> (rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off) -> the new<LMAO> = outrageously hilarious
>> Not to say that all people recognize this new arrangement, simply that some on the forefront of IM (instant messaging or chatting) change recognize the shift and have, like savvy car purchasers, accepted the new value system.
>> A somewhat outdated analogy for the current status of<LOL> might be "knee-slapper," used at one time by many to mean hilarious, but by others to have its current meaning, something whose content might have been considered funny in the past, but no longer passes muster.
>> It seems that this shift might be an IM analogue of a politeness strategy found in oral discourse.
>> I recall an Irishperson complain that her Californian friend invited to come to her house any time if she was in town, so she stopped by when she was. The Californian was put totally out because the invitation to stop by anytime is not an invitation to actually do so, merely an empty social nicety.
>> My teenager informant told me that LOL is what he always uses for something that's not funny, which seems to be very much like the empty invitation to stop by.
>> Benjamin Barrett
>> Seattle, WA
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