Baseball or Base Ball

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Fri Aug 17 04:05:09 UTC 2012

I wonder if, like TV, base ball started out with nuclear stress and
the loss of the space corresponded to a shift to compound stress.  I
still say ['ti'vi] but I hear ['tivi] pretty commonly.


On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Geoffrey Nunberg
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> From the Trenton Evening Times,  November 13, 1915 quoted in John Thorne's excellent "Our Game" blog at
>> In the early days of the game “base ball” was universal. After a time, as the game increased in popularity, many publications adopted the hyphenated form, and it became “base-ball.” At a still later period along in the ’80s, as nearly as can be discovered—the newspapers began to drop the hyphen, and “base ball” came into use.
>> With all regard for those publications which adhere to the old form, the writer can see no valid reason for its continuation, common useage [sic] has set the stamp of approval upon the simple  form of ”baseball” unhyphenated, one and indivisible.
> But shouldn't there have been an intermediate stage of hyphenation, as well?
> Also nice on 19th c baseball lg is this post:
> Geoff
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