_Dead End_ is...

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Wed Aug 22 20:59:04 UTC 2012

At 8/22/2012 04:39 PM, Benjamin Barrett wrote:
>Wikipedia talks about confusing streets in the rat running article
>One of the most extensive uses of this strategy is found in
>Berkeley, California, where dozens of concrete barriers throughout
>the city block shortcuts, while still allowing cycling. In Northern
>Virginia, shortcuts are discouraged by the construction of dead end
>streets, communities with no outlet, and winding roads designed to confuse,

In the Boston area, they didn't need to design them, they just grew.

>making navigation through the neighborhoods more difficult and time-consuming.
>Also, the article on cul-de-sac indicates that "no outlet" can be
>used for a cul-de-sac, not the more elaborate situation I described
>Benjamin Barrett
>Seattle, WA
>On Aug 22, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Jeff Prucher wrote:
> > Whereas in Berkeley, there are streets marked "No Outlet" that do
> eventually (after making a turn or three) connect to through
> streets; I can't even guess what "no outlet" is supposed to mean in
> that context.

"We'd like to be a gated community, so that you couldn't drive
through, but unfortunately we're not."


>But considering the lengths that Berkeley has gone to to limit
>traffic on some residential streets, it's possible that they put the
>signs there just to reduce traffic. (The experience of unexpectedly
>being unable to take what appeared to be a direct route on side
>streets is known as "being Berkeley'd" in my ecolect.)
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
> >>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> No outlet has a different meaning in my experience. It means
> that while there are turns off the present road, they all tie into
> each other so there is literally no outlet.
> >>
> >> I know I see this in Seattle, and I probably saw it in Alaska as well.
> >>
> >> Benjamin Barrett
> >> Seattle, WA
> >>
> >> On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
> >>
> >>> "No Through Street" in Saint Louis
> >>>
> >>> "Street Not Through" in Los Angeles
> >>>
> >>> "No Outlet" in Wilkes-Barre.
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