"lanechtskipt" =? "landish-ship"

Paul Johnston paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU
Tue Nov 12 19:21:09 UTC 2013


Or, even better, Connechtiquot = Connecticut (Pequot?  Mohegan?)

I suppose it could be an Algonquian name of some kind.

Paul Johnston.



On Nov 12, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Spanbock/Svoboda-Spanbock <spanbocks at VERIZON.NET> wrote:

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> Is it possible that it is a native american animal name? It seems similar to massachusett.
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> On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
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>> Thought from left field -- could "Lanecht--skipt" be "long-neck
>> ship-(of-the-desert)" = giraffe?
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>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>>> Sorry, sent too quickly.  W Brewer's supposition is that "echt" is
>>> part of the element that refers to land, and not a separate element
>>> meaning "genuine".
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>>> Joel
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>>>> From: "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at att.net>
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>>>> Playing along (although I'm skeptical, to say the least), would an
>>>> animal that is thought of as "-ish", "somewhat like, having the
>>>> nature of" be named with a word containing "echt", "true, genuine"?
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>>>> Joel
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>>>> At 11/11/2013 07:11 PM, W Brewer wrote:
>>>>> Playing with the idea of 'camel' & working backwards: assume a calque of
>>>>> the original Arabic <ship of the desert> or <desert ship>. Then,
>>>>> <<lanecht>> would have to correspond to 'desert'. This is the tough part.
>>>>> Assume some cognate of English <land> (we think of as basically arable,
>>>>> however). Germanic & Celtic cognates imply a "free space" including
>>> 'heath,
>>>>> plain'. Free of trees, like a <lawn> (etymologically identical to French
>>>>> <lande> 'wasteland' < Celtic 'heath, plain'). <<Lanecht>> could
>>> correspond
>>>>> by this reasoning to English *land-ish (an outlandish idea, actually).
>>>>> Whence "the landish-ship", meaning the camel as metaphorized as "the ship
>>>>> of the wasteland". Wonder if the Arabs view their homeland as a
>>> wasteland?
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