"bucket list" before the movie?

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Mon Sep 16 20:45:36 UTC 2013


Hugo: Great work checking the dubious Slate citation for "bucket list".
Also, thanks for sharing your fine work on "paint the town red".
Garson

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Hugo <hugovk at gmail.com> wrote:
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> OED: 29 June 2006
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> Nothing in Usenet and Google Groups for "my bucket list" before the OED.
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> Nothing relevant in Usenet (via Google Groups) for "bucket list" much before the OED. (Lots of unrelated programming bucket lists.)
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> I think it came from the movie, by scriptwriter Justin Zackham.
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> Only a one-day antedating referring to the film:
> http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117946105?categoryid=10&cs=1
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> Found via a non-antedating:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.writing.screenplays.moderated/y7Ga4vhWpDA
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> Oh, and via the same group, a 16 June 2006 blogpost quoting a 11 June 2006 Usenet post referring to the script:
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> So it seems pretty solid that Scott is, in fact, not the author of The Bucket List.
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> http://bitch-what.blogspot.com/2006/06/drama-on-usenet.html
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> But obviously the script had already been written and there'll be early script drafts.
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> Slate Magazine searched Google Books and claimed a 2004:
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> http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2011/11/09/bucket_list_what_s_the_origin_of_the_term_.html
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> But I think it's misdated. The book Unfair & Unbalanced: The Lunatic Magniloquence of Henry E. Panky, by Patrick M. Carlisle may have been first published in 2004, but the two full view editions in Google Books are copyright 2003-2010 and 2003-2011. The phrase also appears in the author biography at the end of the book and it's not clear when that was written.
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> http://books.google.com/books?id=hSJ6SKgzccAC&pg=PT191&dq=%22bucket+list%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_Vk3UuDyAcjE4gTLyYDYAw&ved=0CH4Q6AEwDw
> http://books.google.com/books?id=Vp9iyyptTEUC&pg=PA283&dq=%22bucket+list%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_Vk3UuDyAcjE4gTLyYDYAw&ved=0CJABEOgBMBI
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> The phrase appears on the author's biography on his own website:
> http://www.henrypanky.com/bio.htm
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> But not in any of the pages I checked in the Internet Archive:
> http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://www.henrypanky.com/bio.htm
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> This page claims a 9 November 2005 on a AP Images caption of actors in a scene from the movie, but it must be wrong seeing as the script and actors were only announced in 2006.
> http://wordwizard.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23948
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> Hugo
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