salugi

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Sat May 3 03:57:47 UTC 2014


Here is a Google Books match for "salugi" in the appropriate sense
although a ball was snatched instead of a cap. The year looks solid
based on various sanity checks, but verification on paper is still
required.

Year: 1954
Title: Champagne Before Breakfast
Author: Hy Gardner
Publisher: Henry Holt and Company, New York
Page 302
(Google Books snippet data may be inaccurate; worldcat agrees with
year; a snippet shows a copyright notice with year 1954)

http://books.google.com/books?id=gq8_AAAAIAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=salugi

[Begin excerpt visible in snippet]
I miss the sound of skates scraping over pavements . . . the shout,
"Ringaleavyo," or however they spelled it . . . The yell "salugi" when
one kid stole your ball and teased you by tossing it to anyone but its
owner . . . The welcome tinkle of an agate striking an immie in
competitive marble games...
[End execerpt]

Garson

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> On May 2, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>> The Files contain a printed example of "salugi" from a 1956 bestseller
>> about Brooklyn. It refers to the 1940s.
>>
>> 1956 Gerald Green _The Last Angry Man_  207 [rpt. N.Y.: Pocket Books,
>> 1972]: They had seized the tan derby of one of their number...[and] were
>> tossing it around in a wild game of _salugi_.
>>
>> Green was born in 1922.
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> Yeah, you can tell.  Our wild saluggis didn't involve tan derbies, more like baseball caps and gloves.
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>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>> Mr. Samuel Solomon of Forest Hills wrote to Hy Gardner's column in the
>>> Philadelphia Inquirer (Dec. 27, 1961), p. 13 to reminisce about "the good
>>> old days":
>>>
>>> "When New York City policemen wore a high, round grey helmet...When streets
>>> had lampposts lit by a man with a long stick...When we played the
>>> frustrating game of salugi, or however you spelled it. A toughie from
>>> another neighborhood would steal your ball, then taunt you by throwing it
>>> to everyone but you."
>>>
>>> (A tip o' the Saluggi hat to  http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html  !)
>>>
>>> My grandparents used to reminisce about the same things - except for the
>>> saluggi part, though my recollection is that my grandfather (b. 1884) was
>>> thoroughly familiar with the concept if not the word.
>>>
>>> The word "toughie" alone and the past tense of "spell" are almost enough to
>>> persuade me that Sam was relating a genuine memory of the ancient world.
>>>
>>> I believe that the virtual absence of this word in print is due to the
>>> difficulty of spelling it convincingly.
>>>
>>> A more chilling possibility is that in any era, the spoken vocabulary has
>>> little to do with its printed cousin.  So give up on historical
>>> dictionaries.
>>>
>>> (The Old Fulton search function turned up a circa 1905 "Anti-Salooji
>>> League," but it was only a bad scan.)
>>>
>>> JL
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 3:47 PM, David Barnhart <dbarnhart at highlands.com
>>>> wrote:
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>>>> With his pugnacious, street-tough manner, Buchanan looks as if he spent
>>> his
>>>> youth standing outside yeshivas and tormenting the Hebrew students by
>>>> playing salugi with their yarmulkes. Lars-Erik Nelson, "Dole's Feeling A
>>>> Pat
>>>> On Back Republicans Fear A Loose Bucannon," Daily News [New York]
>>> (Nexis),
>>>> Feb. 13, 1996, p 2
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