[Ads-l] "No Irish need apply"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Wed Aug 5 14:21:42 UTC 2015


But hasn't Derrida shown that there is no recoverable "history"?  Just
stupid words for the highly educated to play with.

So BFD.  Party on, dudes!

JL

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> More simply put: the mere desire to make a buck and/or a name is sufficient
> motivation for an attempt to re-write history.
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> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Dave Wilton <dave at wilton.net> wrote:
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> > These are not esoteric, arcane topics: ethnic and race relations/history
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> > in the US, the Holocaust. People are rightly interested in them.
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> > If you're writing a commercial book, the hope is that "shocking =
> > discovery" will generate sales. There is also money to be made on the =
> > speaking circuit, via the web, and other channels if you can establish a
> =
> > name for yourself in that niche. If you hit a sweet spot, you can make a
> =
> > tidy living, not Trump money, to be sure, but a living. No guarantee of =
> > course. There are lots of people who successfully do this in all sorts =
> > of subject niches, many who produce quality work, some who don't.
> >
> > For academics, the allure is a new discovery, upsetting the paradigm, =
> > tenure.=20
> >
> > Carving a name out for oneself and cashing in on the fame isn't =
> > necessarily a bad thing. Pretty much anyone who writes a nonfiction book
> =
> > is trying to do the same thing. The problem is when the dream clouds =
> > reality and you end up ignoring the evidence.
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> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > Wikipedia's article on Richard J. Jensen (the self-described Ph.D. =
> > professor) has a section titled "The Debunking of Jensen's article: No =
> > Irish Need Apply: A Myth of Victimization, 2002/03".
> >
> > What motivates the writing of papers and even books purporting to =
> > "debunk" history, I wonder? And why do other people care? Ten or fifteen
> =
> > years ago, someone wrote a book "demonstrating" that, IIRC, there were =
> > no Nazi gas-chambers and/or crematoria, claiming that the buildings =
> > were, in fact, otherly-purposed. This novel didn't enjoy much =
> > circulation at Harvard, but it was one of the books borrowed most often =
> > through the Harvard College Library Inter-Library Loan.
> > "Otherly-purposed" is a jocular nonce-formation that I've invented, just
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> > this moment. Let's see what Google says.
> > Four hits, the oldest dating from 2010. *Still* behind the curve.
> > Youneverknow.
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